How old for belly button ring?

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by Trip

Not getting a belly button ring won't mean they won't do that shit anyway. The girls with tattooes and piercings were extremely easy as well.

The difference?

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[Captain Morgan]

Originally Posted by Kaneman

That wasn't my contention. Mine is that if you bar them from doing something they want to do that they view as harmless then you're actually pushing them to have relations with boys.

"My Dad doesn't think I'm mature enough for a belly button ring, but Joey does....I bet he'll make out with me" I saw this a hundred times in high school.

The problem is in bold. As their parent, it's our responsibility to provide them with the rules and standards because, as teenagers, they don't think rationally. This is where discussion with your children comes into play. You can't just say "because I said so," you have to have a mature discussion with them and help them understand the reasons. If they act like a 4 year old, they'll get treated like one. If they act in a mature and responsible manner, they'll get treated like an adult, within reason. They're still young, with impressionable minds and they still need to have rules and standards to meet.

[Particle Man]

Originally Posted by Captain Morgan

The problem is in bold. As their parent, it's our responsibility to provide them with the rules and standards because, as teenagers, they don't think rationally. This is where discussion with your children comes into play. You can't just say "because I said so," you have to have a mature discussion with them and help them understand the reasons. If they act like a 4 year old, they'll get treated like one. If they act in a mature and responsible manner, they'll get treated like an adult, within reason. They're still young, with impressionable minds and they still need to have rules and standards to meet.

Damn, I am an inarticulate mofo. You said it better

[Trip]

You can always hope for unattractive children and then you have nothing to worry about as long as you don't let them join the band.

[Particle Man]

Band chicks definitely were slutty

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by Kaneman

That wasn't my contention. Mine is that if you bar them from doing something they want to do that they view as harmless then you're actually pushing them to have relations with boys.

"My Dad doesn't think I'm mature enough for a belly button ring, but Joey does....I bet he'll make out with me" I saw this a hundred times in high school.

Simple solution: Bar them from having sex with girls. Instant lesbian daughter. Then you won't have to worry about her getting pregnant.

[Fleck750]

Just take the sleazy, pierced, tattooed 14 year old to the bad side of town and see if she makes any money.

[Kaneman]

Originally Posted by Captain Morgan

The problem is in bold. As their parent, it's our responsibility to provide them with the rules and standards because, as teenagers, they don't think rationally. This is where discussion with your children comes into play. You can't just say "because I said so," you have to have a mature discussion with them and help them understand the reasons. If they act like a 4 year old, they'll get treated like one. If they act in a mature and responsible manner, they'll get treated like an adult, within reason. They're still young, with impressionable minds and they still need to have rules and standards to meet.

Kinda like when my parents sat me down and had a rational conversation with me (age 12) to explain why I still wasn't allowed to watch rated R movies. Ahhh yes, I remember it like it were yesterday, the moment that launched my hardcore porn viewing career.

Belly button rings just aren't a big deal, and I don't think you'll convince any teen otherwise no matter how much rational sitting you do. I understand your sentiment and don't disagree with it, but in the end we're talking about a very minor non-permanent body piercing....we're not talking career setting life long face tattoos here.

Kids are smart. My 7 year old figured out all on his own that the school was lying to him about mohawks increasing aggression in young boys. They presented a rational argument for the banning of spiked hair, he called bullshit.

I guess my point is that if you want your kids to trust you on the important things that you teach them about life, you can't bullshit them about things that don't matter or you lose their trust in everything else you say.

[Trip]

Originally Posted by Kaneman

Kinda like when my parents sat me down and had a rational conversation with me (age 12) to explain why I still wasn't allowed to watch rated R movies. Ahhh yes, I remember it like it were yesterday, the moment that launched my hardcore porn viewing career.

Belly button rings just aren't a big deal, and I don't think you'll convince any teen otherwise no matter how much rational sitting you do. I understand your sentiment and don't disagree with it, but in the end we're talking about a very minor non-permanent body piercing....we're not talking career setting life long face tattoos here.

Kids are smart. My 7 year old figured out all on his own that the school was lying to him about mohawks increasing aggression in young boys. They presented a rational argument for the banning of spiked hair, he called bullshit.

I guess my point is that if you want your kids to trust you on the important things that you teach them about life, you can't bullshit them about things that don't matter or you lose their trust in everything else you say.

You don't think they are a big deal. That's your opinion. Other people feel different. They can get a fake belly button ring if it's not that big of a deal.

As for mohawks, they are fine on little kids, as you get older you look like a dipshit as well.

[HokieDNA01]

My parents told me I couldn't have a BB ring when I was 15 so I pierced mine myself. Was never a slutty kid though (and I was in the band lol)