Some Jackass Thought It Would Be Amusing

[Papa_Complex]

One of these days I'll take a picture of a row of houses, where people were complaining about the aircraft noise from Toronto International, and then post it here.

[fasternyou929]

Originally Posted by Trip

I am not looking for an exact number, just an idea. You could get it in the ballpark.

So you've been casting doubt on Lee's in-person altitude estimate, but YOU'RE going to get a better idea from a photo with no reference points.


I think the, uh, prestige, of running a message board has gone to your head.

[Homeslice]

[6doublefive321]

I can't see all the pics on my work computer, but I would like to know the tail number. I'm training in Kennesaw, and know quite a few pilots around here. I also know quite a few pilots who pull stupid stunts like this.

The FAA has been cracking down on pilots flying outside the box lately. So much so that they have been using Youtube and other sources to pursue violators. I would imagine the FAA took your complaint seriously.

[Homeslice]

This guy is going to get

[Trip]

Originally Posted by fasternyou929

So you've been casting doubt on Lee's in-person altitude estimate, but YOU'RE going to get a better idea from a photo with no reference points.


I think the, uh, prestige, of running a message board has gone to your head.

We are looking for 1000 ft. If you know the zoom, you can get distance to the camera. Make a guess at angle to the ground that would be close. If it is real low to the ground it would be pretty obvious its not 1000 ft.

The guy could easily lose his license over just this incident. So if you are going to do it to this guy, get good evidence that he is actually fucking up.

[anthonyk]

Originally Posted by Trip

We are looking for 1000 ft. If you know the zoom, you can get distance to the camera. Make a guess at angle to the ground that would be close. If it is real low to the ground it would be pretty obvious its not 1000 ft.

The guy could easily lose his license over just this incident. So if you are going to do it to this guy, get good evidence that he is actually fucking up.

How would you even do that? Guessing at the angle (with no reference points) is going to totally determine the estimated altitude. If I remember right, the guy was flying circles, so it's not like you could use level wings to estimate the angle.

Why not just believe that a) Lee thought it was obnoxiously low and b) the FAA is used to dealing with the general public giving bad eyeball estimates of altitude? The guy is not going to lose his certificate over one complaint with no evidence. If he's got a history, or does it again and someone does snap a good pic to show he's way too low, then this complaint helps keep one jackass out of the air.

[Trip]

Originally Posted by anthonyk

How would you even do that? Guessing at the angle (with no reference points) is going to totally determine the estimated altitude. If I remember right, the guy was flying circles, so it's not like you could use level wings to estimate the angle.

Why not just believe that a) Lee thought it was obnoxiously low and b) the FAA is used to dealing with the general public giving bad eyeball estimates of altitude? The guy is not going to lose his certificate over one complaint with no evidence. If he's got a history, or does it again and someone does snap a good pic to show he's way too low, then this complaint helps keep one jackass out of the air.

You wouldn't make the guess of the airplane angle from the picture. You could do a wide range of typical angles that are pictures are normally taken. You could say do a range of 30 to 90 degrees and get a range of altitudes based on that. If it's really low, it's going to be pretty damn obvious.

Math is not hard people.....

This is a discussion forum. Let's discuss it. It's boring as shit when you just have a lynch mob mentality about everything....

[Tmall]

Originally Posted by anthonyk

How would you even do that? Guessing at the angle (with no reference points) is going to totally determine the estimated altitude. If I remember right, the guy was flying circles, so it's not like you could use level wings to estimate the angle.

Why not just believe that a) Lee thought it was obnoxiously low and b) the FAA is used to dealing with the general public giving bad eyeball estimates of altitude? The guy is not going to lose his certificate over one complaint with no evidence. If he's got a history, or does it again and someone does snap a good pic to show he's way too low, then this complaint helps keep one jackass out of the air.

NO!
Lodge a complaint and move on. Fucking whiner.


Edit: I guess, he could lose his license.

Double edit: My guesstimate off of a picture is better than Lee's first hand experience.

/Trip

[Trip]

Originally Posted by Tmall

NO!
Lodge a complaint and move on. Fucking whiner.


Edit: I guess, he could lose his license.

Double edit: My guesstimate off of a picture is better than Lee's first hand experience.

/Trip

edit #1: It's not a guess, I just actually had a long conversation with a licensed private pilot on the subject before I posted that statement. One in which I have logged many many many hours in his Cessnas.... He could lose his license for violating low altitude restrictions.

edit #2: Yey, cause he is our internet friend we should trust his conclusions, it's awesome not to question anything from internet friends!

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