Pay Czar cuts pays of CEO's.........whack!

RACER X · 10-22-2009, 02:54 PM

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125615172396299535.html

Pay Czar to Slash Compensation at Seven Firms

By DEBORAH SOLOMON and DAN FITZPATRICK
The U.S. pay czar will cut in half the average compensation for 175 employees at firms receiving large sums of government aid, with the vast majority of salaries coming in under $500,000, according to people familiar with the government's plans.

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GMAC Hit by Feinberg's Pay Cuts Pay Czar Moves Represent 'Seismic Shift' News Hub Video: Feinberg Wields an Ax CEO Pay: See full pay details for 300+ CEOs Bonuses Seen Rising 50% in U.K. Finance Sector Discuss: Should the government limit CEO pay? WSJ.com/ExecPay: Complete Coverage As expected, the biggest cut will be to salaries, which will drop by 90% on average. Kenneth Feinberg, the Treasury Department's special master for compensation, is expected to issue his determinations today.

Mr. Feinberg's ruling will provide fodder for the long-running debate about whether the Obama administration is being on Wall Street. An executive at one of the seven companies under Mr. Feinberg's authority said the terms came as a shock, especially because they changed so suddenly. The compensation restrictions "were clearly much worse than what had been anticipated."

The largest single compensation package will be less than $10 million and is destined for a Bank of America Corp. employee, according to people familiar with the matter. That is much less than Wall Street's standard payouts for star employees.

Journal Communitydiscuss“ The pay cuts are long overdue. That's what they get for being on the taxpayers' dole. ”
— Steve S. Yet some executives will still walk away with large paychecks. And some big salary cuts might skew overall numbers. Outgoing Bank of America Chief Executive Ken Lewis will receive no salary for 2009. Already, Citigroup Inc. is telling employees the net impact of Mr. Feinberg's rulings will be minimal because the cut salary will be shifted from cash to longer-term stock grants, said people familiar with the matter.

The Obama administration gave Mr. Feinberg the job of more closely tying compensation to long-term performance, something the White House believes will help prevent employees from taking unnecessary risks for short-term gains. The administration believes skewed compensation incentives were one cause of the financial crisis.

In addition to setting dollar amounts for the top 175 employees at the seven companies, Mr. Feinberg is also charged with setting compensation structures for an additional 525 people at the firms.

Some of the toughest pay restrictions will come at the financial-products unit of American International Group Inc., which has been blamed for the firm's near-collapse. No employee within that unit will receive compensation of more than $200,000, people familiar with the matter said.

The companies under Mr. Feinberg's authority are AIG, Bank of America, Citigroup, General Motors Co., GMAC Inc., Chrysler Group LLC and Chrysler Financial.

The point of biggest debate will be the cutting of cash salaries, which are expected to hold below $500,000. Instead, employees will receive what has become known as "salary stock" -- long-term stock grants in lieu of cash that can't be touched for at least four years. Employees could receive a lot of these grants in the next two months because Mr. Feinberg wants them issued in 2009.

Included in Mr. Feinberg's order are incentives for these companies to return the government's cash. Employees might get earlier access to their long-term stock grants if their companies pay back their bailout funds.

Bloomberg News

Kenneth Feinberg, the Treasury Department's special master for compensation.
Companies under the pay czar's purview gave sharply differing reactions to the latest news. At Bank of America, executives worried about how the changes will be received by the global banking and markets group, run by Thomas Montag and home to a number of highly paid investment bankers, executives say. Mr. Montag is among those expected to have his pay slashed, even though his total compensation may still appear large by non-Wall Street standards.

The bank has lured a number of new recruits to this group in recent months, in some cases with multiyear guarantees.

At Citigroup, which is 34%-owned by the U.S. government, officials say the review isn't causing the upheaval some feared.

After weeks of negotiations, which led Citigroup to sell its energy trading unit to dispense with the salary of a star trader, Citigroup executives are comfortable the pay czar won't rebuke the company for its compensation practices.

Citigroup agreed to revamp the contracts of a handful of traders and senior investment bankers, according to people familiar with the matter. But several Citigroup officials briefed on the company's dialogue with Mr. Feinberg's office said salaries and total compensation of the company's highest-paid employees aren't expected to shrink dramatically.

Partly as a result, some Citigroup officials on Wednesday dismissed as political posturing reports that Mr. Feinberg intended to slash pay packages by 50% or more. One executive described it as "a bit of a hoax."

Mr. Feinberg's four-month effort to corral pay is one of the most visible ways the government has become intertwined with the private sector since the crisis began.

"There's definitely never been anything like this where a government sets pay for a company that's publicly traded," said J.W. Verret, a corporate law expert at George Mason University School of Law.

Espen Eckbo, director of the Center for Corporate Governance at Dartmouth College's Tuck School of Business, said the changes to corporate governance could be even more significant.

Treasury officials decided to create a so-called pay czar after the furor over AIG paying bonuses in March. Edward Liddy, who was then CEO of AIG, told Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner the company wouldn't make any payments without the Treasury Department's sign-off.

For several weeks, Mr. Geithner himself was making decisions such as whether a certain employee could collect a pension payment.

"It was definitely not a good use of his time," recalls one government official.

Since bringing Mr. Feinberg to the Treasury Department, the Obama administration has largely stayed out of his business, preferring instead to let him make the controversial calls unlikely to please many people.

Mr. Feinberg has met with Mr. Geithner just twice and hasn't spoken with White House officials at all.

The hands-off approach is part of a move by the administration to avoid making the hard decisions confronting Mr. Feinberg, and to stave off criticism for what he ultimately decides. That hasn't stopped Mr. Feinberg from invoking the potential for political backlash, including from the White House, in negotiations, company officials say.

—David Enrich and Joann S. Lublin contributed to this article.
Write to Deborah Solomon at deborah.solomon@wsj.com and Dan Fitzpatrick at dan.fitzpatrick@wsj.com

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i always thought czars were like advisors, not having any real power.

HurricaneHeather · 10-22-2009, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RACER X

...said people familiar with the matter.

This sounds like something you would see in People magazine.

CasterTroy · 10-22-2009, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RACER X

The largest single compensation package will be less than $10 million and is destined for a Bank of America Corp. employee,

I've always wondered WHAT could someone do that merits THIS kind of pay?

and how I could qualify for that job next

RACER X · 10-22-2009, 03:14 PM

join the union and become a stage hand.

pauldun170 · 10-22-2009, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by CasterTroy

I've always wondered WHAT could someone do that merits THIS kind of pay?

and how I could qualify for that job next

That probably one of the Merrill Lynch guys

Example of a $5 Million dollar compensation package. Way oversimplified and likely to be laughed at as amatuerish by those who actually get\write up these packages.

Base Salary : $400,000
Stock option: 50,000 shares at 4 under market price (200,000 current value)
Management Option: 60,000 shares at 3 under market (180,000)
Annual bonus: $1,000,000 (in order to earn this you have to meet certain targets...such as bringing in 50 million in new business for the year)
Departmental\Division bonus: $1,000,000 (Your Division meets all targets set at beginning of year....such as bringing in 750 million in new deals)
Retention bonus: $500,000 (Please stay with the company and make us money)
Commision on fees: Lets say for each deal you bring in, say for example a 100 million credit facility for company ABC. the bank will charge a bunch of fees.
If Company ABC touches the money, they pay a million dollar fee.
If they don't touch it...they pay a million dollar fee. there are legal and processing fees. there administrative fees. Big money in fees.
Some guys will get a little % on that.

You can change those numbers around but it's an example of how these compensation packages get to be be so big. Its a combination of lot items.

z06boy · 10-22-2009, 04:01 PM

I guess they need to pay back all of the TARP $$ and then tell the gov to

.

EpyonXero · 10-22-2009, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by z06boy

I guess they need to pay back all of the TARP $$ and then tell the gov to

.

That will make everybody happy.

pauldun170 · 10-22-2009, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by z06boy

I guess they need to pay back all of the TARP $$ and then tell the gov to

.

That's the plan...

Take your crappy loan and shove it up your ass.

z06boy · 10-22-2009, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by pauldun170

That probably one of the Merrill Lynch guys

Could be...one in particular comes to mind that it could be.

Has to be and investment type guy that works on commission....well not totally on commission but mainly.

goof2 · 10-22-2009, 05:40 PM

There was also the instance a month or two ago of the commodities trader who was due a $100+ million dollar bonus. He made his company over $1 billion from his trades. I suspect he isn't going to be getting his bonus.

10-22-2009, 02:54 PM	#1
RACER X AMA Supersport Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Richmond, Tx Moto: '10 Tuono Factory Posts: 4,569	Pay Czar cuts pays of CEO's.........whack! http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125615172396299535.html Pay Czar to Slash Compensation at Seven Firms By DEBORAH SOLOMON and DAN FITZPATRICK The U.S. pay czar will cut in half the average compensation for 175 employees at firms receiving large sums of government aid, with the vast majority of salaries coming in under $500,000, according to people familiar with the government's plans. More GMAC Hit by Feinberg's Pay Cuts Pay Czar Moves Represent 'Seismic Shift' News Hub Video: Feinberg Wields an Ax CEO Pay: See full pay details for 300+ CEOs Bonuses Seen Rising 50% in U.K. Finance Sector Discuss: Should the government limit CEO pay? WSJ.com/ExecPay: Complete Coverage As expected, the biggest cut will be to salaries, which will drop by 90% on average. Kenneth Feinberg, the Treasury Department's special master for compensation, is expected to issue his determinations today. Mr. Feinberg's ruling will provide fodder for the long-running debate about whether the Obama administration is being on Wall Street. An executive at one of the seven companies under Mr. Feinberg's authority said the terms came as a shock, especially because they changed so suddenly. The compensation restrictions "were clearly much worse than what had been anticipated." The largest single compensation package will be less than $10 million and is destined for a Bank of America Corp. employee, according to people familiar with the matter. That is much less than Wall Street's standard payouts for star employees. Journal Communitydiscuss“ The pay cuts are long overdue. That's what they get for being on the taxpayers' dole. ” — Steve S. Yet some executives will still walk away with large paychecks. And some big salary cuts might skew overall numbers. Outgoing Bank of America Chief Executive Ken Lewis will receive no salary for 2009. Already, Citigroup Inc. is telling employees the net impact of Mr. Feinberg's rulings will be minimal because the cut salary will be shifted from cash to longer-term stock grants, said people familiar with the matter. The Obama administration gave Mr. Feinberg the job of more closely tying compensation to long-term performance, something the White House believes will help prevent employees from taking unnecessary risks for short-term gains. The administration believes skewed compensation incentives were one cause of the financial crisis. In addition to setting dollar amounts for the top 175 employees at the seven companies, Mr. Feinberg is also charged with setting compensation structures for an additional 525 people at the firms. Some of the toughest pay restrictions will come at the financial-products unit of American International Group Inc., which has been blamed for the firm's near-collapse. No employee within that unit will receive compensation of more than $200,000, people familiar with the matter said. The companies under Mr. Feinberg's authority are AIG, Bank of America, Citigroup, General Motors Co., GMAC Inc., Chrysler Group LLC and Chrysler Financial. The point of biggest debate will be the cutting of cash salaries, which are expected to hold below $500,000. Instead, employees will receive what has become known as "salary stock" -- long-term stock grants in lieu of cash that can't be touched for at least four years. Employees could receive a lot of these grants in the next two months because Mr. Feinberg wants them issued in 2009. Included in Mr. Feinberg's order are incentives for these companies to return the government's cash. Employees might get earlier access to their long-term stock grants if their companies pay back their bailout funds. Bloomberg News Kenneth Feinberg, the Treasury Department's special master for compensation. Companies under the pay czar's purview gave sharply differing reactions to the latest news. At Bank of America, executives worried about how the changes will be received by the global banking and markets group, run by Thomas Montag and home to a number of highly paid investment bankers, executives say. Mr. Montag is among those expected to have his pay slashed, even though his total compensation may still appear large by non-Wall Street standards. The bank has lured a number of new recruits to this group in recent months, in some cases with multiyear guarantees. At Citigroup, which is 34%-owned by the U.S. government, officials say the review isn't causing the upheaval some feared. After weeks of negotiations, which led Citigroup to sell its energy trading unit to dispense with the salary of a star trader, Citigroup executives are comfortable the pay czar won't rebuke the company for its compensation practices. Citigroup agreed to revamp the contracts of a handful of traders and senior investment bankers, according to people familiar with the matter. But several Citigroup officials briefed on the company's dialogue with Mr. Feinberg's office said salaries and total compensation of the company's highest-paid employees aren't expected to shrink dramatically. Partly as a result, some Citigroup officials on Wednesday dismissed as political posturing reports that Mr. Feinberg intended to slash pay packages by 50% or more. One executive described it as "a bit of a hoax." Mr. Feinberg's four-month effort to corral pay is one of the most visible ways the government has become intertwined with the private sector since the crisis began. "There's definitely never been anything like this where a government sets pay for a company that's publicly traded," said J.W. Verret, a corporate law expert at George Mason University School of Law. Espen Eckbo, director of the Center for Corporate Governance at Dartmouth College's Tuck School of Business, said the changes to corporate governance could be even more significant. Treasury officials decided to create a so-called pay czar after the furor over AIG paying bonuses in March. Edward Liddy, who was then CEO of AIG, told Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner the company wouldn't make any payments without the Treasury Department's sign-off. For several weeks, Mr. Geithner himself was making decisions such as whether a certain employee could collect a pension payment. "It was definitely not a good use of his time," recalls one government official. Since bringing Mr. Feinberg to the Treasury Department, the Obama administration has largely stayed out of his business, preferring instead to let him make the controversial calls unlikely to please many people. Mr. Feinberg has met with Mr. Geithner just twice and hasn't spoken with White House officials at all. The hands-off approach is part of a move by the administration to avoid making the hard decisions confronting Mr. Feinberg, and to stave off criticism for what he ultimately decides. That hasn't stopped Mr. Feinberg from invoking the potential for political backlash, including from the White House, in negotiations, company officials say. —David Enrich and Joann S. Lublin contributed to this article. Write to Deborah Solomon at deborah.solomon@wsj.com and Dan Fitzpatrick at dan.fitzpatrick@wsj.com --------------------------------------- i always thought czars were like advisors, not having any real power. __________________ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ 2014 GROM! 181cc of FURY 2010 Aprilia Tuono Factory - SOLD 2009 SFV Gladius - SOLD 2008 Hayabusa - SOLD. Last edited by RACER X; 10-22-2009 at 03:03 PM..

10-22-2009, 03:14 PM	#4
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z06boy Letzroll Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Lake Norman area, NC Moto: 07 Red R1 & 07 Blue R6 Posts: 5,265	I guess they need to pay back all of the TARP $$ and then tell the gov to .

10-22-2009, 05:40 PM	#10
goof2 AMA Supersport Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 4,756	There was also the instance a month or two ago of the commodities trader who was due a $100+ million dollar bonus. He made his company over $1 billion from his trades. I suspect he isn't going to be getting his bonus.