I'm an idiot...

the chi · 05-20-2008, 11:13 AM

Okay guys, I admit it, I was an idiot and didnt pay the proper amount of attention when reinstalling my frame slider. The story ends with me stripping out the engine side. The bolt isnt stuck inside, and I even have the handy dandy coil of aluminum from my fuck up, but now I gotta fix this before I head to the Dragon in a few weeks.

After talking to several people, it looks like my best and easiest option at this point in time is to tap in a helocoil (sp) and put the bolt back in.

Anyone have any tips or experience in dealing with this issue and the repairs needed?

(I dont have time or cash to get the hole redone at this point, and I am not in favor of just drilling another hole.)

nhgunnut · 05-20-2008, 11:17 AM

An option sometime used in the gun world is JB Weld.
the + is that it is a fast strong fix the - is that it is a mess to try undo later to make a "proper repair".
Best option seems to be the one you started with a Helicoil

Rider · 05-20-2008, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nhgunnut

An option sometime used in the gun world is JB Weld.
the + is that it is a fast strong fix the - is that it is a mess to try undo later to make a "proper repair".
Best option seems to be the one you started with a Helicoil

Thats the best plan for now. You can alway take it out later and drill a bigger hole and tap some threads in there. You will need to get a bigger bolt though which my not fit through the frame slider.

JB Weld is a mess and it is permanent. You will want to be able to remove that bolt is you need to.

the chi · 05-20-2008, 11:31 AM

If I have to get a bigger bolt i will most likely just drill out the frame slider a bit. Its on the right side of the gxsr, a vortex, so that side doesnt have the metal piece, just washers and frame slider.

I am still kicking myself in the ass on this one...

papapoi · 05-20-2008, 11:41 AM

rae just get a tapset and re thread the hole. i think thats what it is called :P . We won't hold your tardness against ya . I'm free this weekend if ya need a hand. never re-threaded a bolt hole. Maybe Ray can help.

Captain Morgan · 05-20-2008, 11:43 AM

Damn, that sucks!! Did you try to tighten the bolt too much, or just not get it threaded properly?

By the way, I laughed my ass off at the front page because I saw, "I'm an idiot" immediately followed by "Got engaged this weekend".

the chi · 05-20-2008, 11:51 AM

LMAO...yeah I can understand why that would be funny...

Chuck, i think thats what this is sposed to do...they do it on the jets around here too...I will let ya know, hopefully I wont have to pull the engine to get this done, but if so, rest assured I may be calling in some assistance!!

i misthreaded the damn thing and didnt realize it until it was too late...

my bike and I are developing a love/hate relationship...she's developing quite a taste for my blood as well as a distinct tendency to leave the most awful looking bruises everytime I work on her...probably payback for this issue...

Amber Lamps · 05-20-2008, 12:28 PM

I don't know if this'll make sense but...how far in did you get the bolt before you realized your mistake? The bolt threads in approx 1" and if you only misthreaded it "alittle" 1/4 or so. With some patience you can get things back on track and be ok. Can you reach the otherside of the thread and run the bolt in that way to clean the threads up? If not,you can use the bolt,a tap that size would be better about $4 at Lowes,and lube it,carefully line it up with the hole and carefully re-thread the damaged part. You'll have to "wiggle" it around until you have it lined up,patience is of the utmost here!The key is if you have it right,the bolt should start to turn easily after you get past the damage. Sometimes it helps to drill out the bad part of the threads but you have to be VERY careful. The positive side of this is you won't be any worse off if it doesn't work so it's worth a try.

If this doesn't work,or if you'd rather not try,then I'd also reccomend a heilicoil. You can get it in your present size and you'd only have to do minimal drilling into the engine mount/frame. Good luck!

the chi · 05-20-2008, 12:36 PM

thanks for the advice, unfortunately, when I do something, I do it WELL!!! It's completely and totally unfixable without doing a helocoil, time cert, or retap.

papapoi · 05-20-2008, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Rae

LMAO...yeah I can understand why that would be funny...

Chuck, i think thats what this is sposed to do...they do it on the jets around here too...I will let ya know, hopefully I wont have to pull the engine to get this done, but if so, rest assured I may be calling in some assistance!!

i misthreaded the damn thing and didnt realize it until it was too late...

my bike and I are developing a love/hate relationship...she's developing quite a taste for my blood as well as a distinct tendency to leave the most awful looking bruises everytime I work on her...probably payback for this issue...

Well ya know my number if ya need a hand. Friday i'm going to watch Indiana Jones :P.

05-20-2008, 11:41 AM	#5
papapoi Lost Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Florida Panhandle Posts: 178	rae just get a tapset and re thread the hole. i think thats what it is called :P . We won't hold your tardness against ya . I'm free this weekend if ya need a hand. never re-threaded a bolt hole. Maybe Ray can help. __________________

05-20-2008, 11:17 AM	#2
nhgunnut gun totin redneck Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South West New Hampshire Moto: turbo busa 999 Duc Goldwing & Victory Posts: 1,130	An option sometime used in the gun world is JB Weld. the + is that it is a fast strong fix the - is that it is a mess to try undo later to make a "proper repair". Best option seems to be the one you started with a Helicoil

05-20-2008, 11:43 AM	#6
Captain Morgan Let's do another U-turn Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Indiana Moto: 2009 V-Strom Posts: 3,816	Damn, that sucks!! Did you try to tighten the bolt too much, or just not get it threaded properly? By the way, I laughed my ass off at the front page because I saw, "I'm an idiot" immediately followed by "Got engaged this weekend".

05-20-2008, 12:28 PM	#8
Amber Lamps Moto GP Star Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 14,556	I don't know if this'll make sense but...how far in did you get the bolt before you realized your mistake? The bolt threads in approx 1" and if you only misthreaded it "alittle" 1/4 or so. With some patience you can get things back on track and be ok. Can you reach the otherside of the thread and run the bolt in that way to clean the threads up? If not,you can use the bolt,a tap that size would be better about $4 at Lowes,and lube it,carefully line it up with the hole and carefully re-thread the damaged part. You'll have to "wiggle" it around until you have it lined up,patience is of the utmost here!The key is if you have it right,the bolt should start to turn easily after you get past the damage. Sometimes it helps to drill out the bad part of the threads but you have to be VERY careful. The positive side of this is you won't be any worse off if it doesn't work so it's worth a try. If this doesn't work,or if you'd rather not try,then I'd also reccomend a heilicoil. You can get it in your present size and you'd only have to do minimal drilling into the engine mount/frame. Good luck!