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Old 12-15-2008, 11:52 AM   #41
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I was a co-chair of electrical safety committee for several years at my job. I live and practice electrical safety in everything I do, I would fire an employee for purposefully shocking another employee. I couldn't trust that employee with any jobs that are required to be in this field and therefore they would be completely useless to me. That is honestly the way I feel. It's not like he had a shock pen or something goofy like that, he literally used work equipment to play this prank. Of course, most people don't have the strict rules my position requires to maintain employment. You can't torque a bolt unless it is written in a step by step procedure with specific guidelines and vendor documents supporting those guidelines and the procedure along with the torque wrench itself having full traceability and testing to ensure it is in tolerance.
I can appreciate your stance on the subject at hand, especially coming from your point of view.

What I was debating was the "no matter how small / can't trust them" line of thinking.

Basically, if a co-worked WERE to zap you with a shock pen they are instantly deemed incapable of being trusted in a life or death situation.
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Old 12-15-2008, 11:54 AM   #42
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Basically, if a co-worked WERE to zap you with a shock pen they are instantly deemed incapable of being trusted in a life or death situation.
A shock pen is different from using work equipment that is known to have 220 on it. I wouldn't pursue someone for a shock pen. Using work equipment that has potentially fatal levels of amperage is another thing.
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Old 12-15-2008, 12:00 PM   #43
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I was a co-chair of electrical safety committee for several years at my job. I live and practice electrical safety in everything I do, I would fire an employee for purposefully shocking another employee. I couldn't trust that employee with any jobs that are required to be in this field and therefore they would be completely useless to me. That is honestly the way I feel. It's not like he had a shock pen or something goofy like that, he literally used work equipment to play this prank. Of course, most people don't have the strict rules my position requires to maintain employment. You can't torque a bolt unless it is written in a step by step procedure with specific guidelines and vendor documents supporting those guidelines and the procedure along with the torque wrench itself having full traceability and testing to ensure it is in tolerance.
Even putting aside the issue of safety, for which I would also fire someone if in the position to do so, it's also putting the EQUIPMENT at risk.
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Old 12-15-2008, 12:00 PM   #44
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yea jgalt! you cant be trusted ! fock yewwwwwwwwwwwwwww!
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Old 12-15-2008, 12:01 PM   #45
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A shock pen is different from using work equipment that is known to have 220 on it. I wouldn't pursue someone for a shock pen. Using work equipment that has potentially fatal levels of amperage is another thing.

Originally, you said you would:

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If someone injured me purposefully on the job, no matter how minor, I would make sure they got fired.
See, I was right: You didn't really mean it.

Again, I understand your position, I just don't deal well with absolutes.

Does this mean I have to start doing work now?
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Old 12-15-2008, 12:02 PM   #46
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So I guess zapping a sleeping coworker with adefibrilator would be bad

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Old 12-15-2008, 12:02 PM   #47
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Originally, you said you would:



See, I was right: You didn't really mean it.

Again, I understand your position, I just don't deal well with absolutes.

Does this mean I have to start doing work now?
no, you can flick rubber bands at the assistant
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So I guess zapping a sleeping coworker with adefibrilator would be bad

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Plausible deniability. You thought he was coding.
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Old 12-15-2008, 12:04 PM   #49
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So I guess zapping a sleeping coworker with adefibrilator would be bad

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Just don't post about it.
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Old 12-15-2008, 12:11 PM   #50
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Originally, you said you would:

See, I was right: You didn't really mean it.

Again, I understand your position, I just don't deal well with absolutes.

Does this mean I have to start doing work now?
It depends on what you consider on the job. If I am sitting in my cube getting a shocking pen, I wouldn't do anything about. If I am out in the plant "on the job" with my hands on equipment and I get shocked, then yes I would pursue it.
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