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Old 11-27-2009, 02:14 PM   #81
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Motors are electric, idiot. My bike has an engine.
So you mean after all these years of thinking I was a motorhead, turns out I'm actually an enginehead?
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Old 11-27-2009, 02:15 PM   #82
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So you mean after all these years of thinking I was a motorhead, turns out I'm actually an enginehead?
Well, if that's not the engine calling the motor pot.. I mean, pothead.
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Old 11-27-2009, 02:16 PM   #83
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So you mean after all these years of thinking I was a motorhead, turns out I'm actually an enginehead?

Brain dead, total amnesia,
Get some mental anasthesia,
Don't move, I'll shut the door and kill the lights,
And if I can't be wrong I could be right,
All good clean fun,
Have another stick of gum,
Man, you look better already,
Motorhead, remember me now Motorhead, alright

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Old 11-27-2009, 02:17 PM   #84
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And? Does that mean Formula 1 guys should all of a sudden install tractor engines with a 50-speed gearbox, just because it COULD reach 250 mph? Ain't gonna happen -- such a drivetrain would weigh too much and take too much space.

And as far as drag racing? Let's take one of the most popular classes, Pro Stock......those engines are ~500 cubic in V-8's that put out around 2,000 hp and 1,500 lb-ft of torque.............hardly the "stump puller" type of ratio that you torque fans are advocating.

Look, everyone wants low-end torque.......I don't know anyone who doesn't. But there's a balance. I don't particularly like cars or bikes that start running out of steam or vibrating to death (like Ford 302's would) at only 4-5K rpm. Personal preference.
So, instead of using 500 cubic inch engines making 2000hp, how come they're not using smaller displacement higher revving force inducted motors to make the same 2000hp with much less tq? all they'd need is more revs.
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Old 11-27-2009, 02:18 PM   #85
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Did you ever notice that an f1 car will barely idle? They have to blip the throttle so it doens't fall below it's tq peak and have zero acceleration
That is completely not true. They idle just fine they more computing power than you would ever believe and they idle just fine.

Now the clutches on the other hand do suck.
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Old 11-27-2009, 02:20 PM   #86
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Thats something i need to make + axel but less than 15 if poss.
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What is your argument? The highest strung vehicles in the world compare to our bikes and daily drivers?
The argument was, what wins races? Someone here claimed that HP is only good for advertising, and that torque is what wins races. I disagreed, which is why I went there. If you're going to talk about racing, it's only appropriate to talk about racing at the highest level.
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So, instead of using 500 cubic inch engines making 2000hp, how come they're not using smaller displacement higher revving force inducted motors to make the same 2000hp with much less tq? all they'd need is more revs.
So by your math Diesel or steam engines would be even faster cause they make even more torque.
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I just called Chrysler, and told them straight away the importance of changing the name of their motor parts division from MOPAR to ENPAR.

They mumbled something about FIAT parts, and hung up.
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Old 11-27-2009, 02:24 PM   #90
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That is completely not true. They idle just fine they more computing power than you would ever believe and they idle just fine.

Now the clutches on the other hand do suck.
actually, no, they dont. Unlike Nascar, who rev their cars at the start line to show off for fans, f1 drivers do it so they dont stall off the line. If the rpms drop too low when they finally take off, the car will go nowhere fast.
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