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Old 03-28-2010, 12:01 AM   #91
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My dad is in his late 70's, and has a GF in her 20s, and a 5 year old kid.

For real.
A little golddigging going on, perhaps?
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Old 03-28-2010, 01:38 AM   #92
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A little golddigging going on, perhaps?
I think she wanted a ticket into show bidness.

She didn't get it.

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Old 03-28-2010, 04:37 AM   #93
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This is why the French, Italians, and other bread and pasta favoring cultures are so disgustingly fat.

Oh wait...

And if those cows that are getting fat because of corn had a decent activity level and weren't being stuffed to the gills with it, I imagine the outcome would be different. Not unlike the average American, actually.
Most European pastas and breads do not contain Enriched flour, which is not easily digestable. And..they do not eat the amounts we do. Probably 1/3 that being much more active.
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Old 03-28-2010, 04:47 AM   #94
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Are you advising them to cut out all carbs? If so, for what length of time? Cutting all carbs for a short while is fine if you want to lose weight fast, but losing weight fast isn't exactly ideal for the body. I think a healthy mix of carbs, fats, and protein is the key, in small meals throughout the day in order to keep the metabolism higher. Combine this with exercise and you have a healthy lifestyle. I'm not a fan of any diet that eliminates something completely.
You cannot cut out all carbs...its really not possible, but moreso carbs are needed for thyroid production.

The problem is America biases it's caloric intake primarily towards carbs (50%) which has the effect of continous insulin spiking leading to fat gain and eventually type 2 diabetes.

My opinion on carbs is this...they should be used for energy expenditures only. Me personally use carbs as my first meal, during lifting and then after lifting. In the morning your insulin level is low, carbs may rise it, but not enough to gain fat. During and after lifting is simply to replenish lost gylcogen levels so your body doesn't burn muscle. Fat intake is almost shunted at that point.
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I think she wanted a ticket into show bidness.

She didn't get it.

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Ah, OK, so that's what they must feed to livestock.

My bad.
Sorry, corn is more fattening than grass, the traditional diet of cows. If the typical human diet was primarily grass, corn on its own would be fattening for us too.
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It's also more fattening than meat, and green vegetables, which I believe was the fucking point.

Corn makes you fucking fat. I didn't think it was hard to understand.

They feed it to livestock to fucking fatten them.

HFCS is fattening too, I believe I read it somewhere...
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Old 03-28-2010, 07:33 PM   #98
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Wow, theres a lot of wrong opinions in this thread, and not much right.

Good work guys. Now im going to have to spend an hour of my time later to make you all understand how this shit works.

For some reason I didnt read this thread till now, too much fail to deal with all at once.
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It's also more fattening than meat, and green vegetables, which I believe was the fucking point.

Corn makes you fucking fat. I didn't think it was hard to understand.

They feed it to livestock to fucking fatten them.

HFCS is fattening too, I believe I read it somewhere...
Corn might make cows fat, but that's not surprising since they sit around confined all day. Is it more fattening than grass, no shit, almost anything would be more fattening than grass. But that says nothing about humans, especially active ones who have no problem burning off carbs. Besides, like 101 said, the carbs in corn aren't that bad, its glycemic index isn't nearly as high as shit like Wonder bread.

It is the hormones and other shit that should concern you more.

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Wow, theres a lot of wrong opinions in this thread, and not much right.

Good work guys. Now im going to have to spend an hour of my time later to make you all understand how this shit works.

For some reason I didnt read this thread till now, too much fail to deal with all at once.
Looking forward to hearing it.
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