Go Back   Two Wheel Fix > General > Off Topic

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-15-2011, 06:04 PM   #1
Homeslice
Elitist
 
Homeslice's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: SF Bay Area
Moto: Gix 750
Posts: 11,351
Default For the oil clueless

"There is practically nothing that Washington can do that would materially change the price of fuel in this country," said Raymond James analyst Pavel Molchanov, noting that the United States produces about 5 percent of the world's petroleum while consuming about 20 percent. "Given that imbalance, there is simply no policy shift that could plausibly come from the federal government that can significantly change that dynamic."
Homeslice is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2011, 07:39 PM   #2
'73 H1 Triple
restorer of the original
 
'73 H1 Triple's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Zionsville,PA
Moto: '93 ZR1100 &'73 Kawasaki H1 500
Posts: 1,331
Default

Since the speculators are currently responsible for about 20-25% of the increase in the per barrel price, why not tax them at 5X what they make?

I can guarantee that if the oil speculators were taxed $500 for every $100 they made, the price of oil would would drop.

You can also be sure that someone in the industry would NOT suggest that
'73 H1 Triple is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2011, 08:02 PM   #3
Papa_Complex
Nomadic Tribesman
 
Papa_Complex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Brampton, Canada
Moto: '09 ER-6n
Posts: 11,150
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by '73 H1 Triple View Post
Since the speculators are currently responsible for about 20-25% of the increase in the per barrel price, why not tax them at 5X what they make?

I can guarantee that if the oil speculators were taxed $500 for every $100 they made, the price of oil would would drop.

You can also be sure that someone in the industry would NOT suggest that
How about not letting speculators buy futures, unless they are physically capable of taking delivery?
__________________
"Everything's better with pirates." - Lodge, "Dorkness Rising"

http://www.morallyambiguous.net/
Papa_Complex is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2011, 08:15 PM   #4
derf
token jewboy
 
derf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Moto: CBR 900, KLR ugly ass duckling, Gas Man
Posts: 10,799
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by '73 H1 Triple View Post
Since the speculators are currently responsible for about 20-25% of the increase in the per barrel price, why not tax them at 5X what they make?

I can guarantee that if the oil speculators were taxed $500 for every $100 they made, the price of oil would would drop.

You can also be sure that someone in the industry would NOT suggest that
Quote:
Originally Posted by Papa_Complex View Post
How about not letting speculators buy futures, unless they are physically capable of taking delivery?
Both viable but completely unrealistic options. Too many people are making too much money for them not to screw everyone else.
__________________
derf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2011, 08:39 PM   #5
Adeptus_Minor
Hopster
 
Adeptus_Minor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Austin, TX
Moto: 2009 Buell 1125R
Posts: 4,743
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by derf View Post
Both viable but completely unrealistic options. Too many people are making too much money for them not to screw everyone else.
Quoted for effin' truth.
__________________
“Well, obviously before; after was all gendarmes and dick stitches.”
Adeptus_Minor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2011, 09:53 PM   #6
marko138
DefenderOfTheBuelliverse
 
marko138's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Parts Unknown
Moto: Buell XB12R
Posts: 18,585
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by derf View Post
Both viable but completely unrealistic options. Too many people are making too much money for them not to screw everyone else.
Smart motherfucker right here.
__________________


Quote:
Grandma said she doesn't want you here when she gets back because you've been ruining everybody's lives and eating all our steak.
marko138 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2011, 10:45 PM   #7
101lifts2
WSB Champion
 
101lifts2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Anaheim, CA
Moto: 2009 Kawi ZX6R
Posts: 5,570
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by '73 H1 Triple View Post
Since the speculators are currently responsible for about 20-25% of the increase in the per barrel price, why not tax them at 5X what they make?

I can guarantee that if the oil speculators were taxed $500 for every $100 they made, the price of oil would would drop.

You can also be sure that someone in the industry would NOT suggest that
I listened to John Stossell say that speculators are not responsible for the price of oil. I'm sure to some extent, but it's def. not the driving factor.

And if what you say (20/25% control) is true, shouldn't we be worrying about the 75/80% i.e. the weakening dollar?
__________________
Train Hard

Ron Paul - 2012

Mark of Excellence
GM
101lifts2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2011, 10:48 PM   #8
'73 H1 Triple
restorer of the original
 
'73 H1 Triple's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Zionsville,PA
Moto: '93 ZR1100 &'73 Kawasaki H1 500
Posts: 1,331
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 101lifts2 View Post
I listened to John Stossell say that speculators are not responsible for the price of oil. I'm sure to some extent, but it's def. not the driving factor.

And if what you say (20/25% control) is true, shouldn't we be worrying about the 75/80% i.e. the weakening dollar?
Our current pres is spending money like it's water flowing over the dam further devaluing the US$
'73 H1 Triple is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2011, 10:59 PM   #9
101lifts2
WSB Champion
 
101lifts2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Anaheim, CA
Moto: 2009 Kawi ZX6R
Posts: 5,570
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by '73 H1 Triple View Post
Our current pres is spending money like it's water flowing over the dam further devaluing the US$
Both Neocons and Democrats spend the same amount of money. The both suck.

Go Ron Paul!
__________________
Train Hard

Ron Paul - 2012

Mark of Excellence
GM
101lifts2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2011, 11:19 PM   #10
derf
token jewboy
 
derf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Moto: CBR 900, KLR ugly ass duckling, Gas Man
Posts: 10,799
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 101lifts2 View Post
Both Neocons and Democrats spend the same amount of money. The both suck.
Agreed, they are both dependent on each other to spend more money than the last guy so they can blame the last guy for spending too much while promising not to do the same while spending more than the last guy. They are pretty interchangeable to me anyway.


Quote:
Originally Posted by 101lifts2 View Post
Go Ron Paul!
I like a ton of what he says, I also believe that he has sold the world on himself being the anti politician politician. In fact i believe that half of what he says is only to be different from everyone else, I'm not sure he really believes it.
__________________

Last edited by derf; 05-15-2011 at 11:22 PM..
derf is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:08 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.