Getting over a crash - Page 3

Dave · 05-24-2012, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by azoomm

Sorry. Girl brain. See, can't fix that.

quoted for truth. sometimes i feel id get better logic from a speak and spell

Rangerscott · 05-24-2012, 11:40 PM

Can you throttle lock so it'll only move so much? Keep her from pulling an Evel Knievel.

What about a 4 wheeler for the time being?

Sean · 05-25-2012, 01:13 AM

The first time she soloed on a bike it shot away from her into a wall and she had to put her wrist in a sling for two weeks. It's not "girl brain", it's a very logical reaction. Anyone would be a little spooked if this were their first experience on a bike. Not helpful.

azoomm · 05-25-2012, 08:38 AM

No, you're not understanding me. It seems, to her, riding a motorcycle is like doing complicated math. I've seen a ton of times.

The only way over that is determination. SHE has to want it. Unfortunately, riding is the only way to create the muscle memory for riding. If a 125 throttle is too much for her, this might not be something for her to master. That is, unless SHE wants it.

I've seen it go both ways. But, it seems the best way for her to want it is for you to walk away and do your thing.

Sign her up for a class (or five) without you. I can assure you, in her head she is disappointing you.

I recommend loved ones stay the heck away from someone learning to drive cars and motorcycles. Expectations, whether real or not, get in the way of the learning process.

OneSickPsycho · 05-25-2012, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by azoomm

No, you're not understanding me. It seems, to her, riding a motorcycle is like doing complicated math. I've seen a ton of times.

The only way over that is determination. SHE has to want it. Unfortunately, riding is the only way to create the muscle memory for riding. If a 125 throttle is too much for her, this might not be something for her to master. That is, unless SHE wants it.

I've seen it go both ways. But, it seems the best way for her to want it is for you to walk away and do your thing.

Sign her up for a class (or five) without you. I can assure you, in her head she is disappointing you.

I recommend loved ones stay the heck away from someone learning to drive cars and motorcycles. Expectations, whether real or not, get in the way of the learning process.

MSF for the win.

Trip · 05-25-2012, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho

MSF for the win.

If he is wanting her to ride dirt, this is almost useless and will teach bad dirt habits. Unless he can find the dirt oriented version.

Just keep practicing with her if you can't find something specific. Find out if this is where her heart is or if this is an activity you are projecting on her.

OneSickPsycho · 05-25-2012, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Trip

If he is wanting her to ride dirt, this is almost useless and will teach bad dirt habits. Unless he can find the dirt oriented version.

Just keep practicing with her if you can't find something specific. Find out if this is where her heart is or if this is an activity you are projecting on her.

I call BS on that. Getting comfortable on two wheels, learning proficiency with the controls... can be very worthwhile. From the sounds of it, she doesn't even have the very basics down and is uncomfortable with the whole thing. Riding around in circles at 10-20mph isn't that much different on dirt vs asphalt... and could help her gain some confidence.

Trip · 05-25-2012, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho

I call BS on that. Getting comfortable on two wheels, learning proficiency with the controls... can be very worthwhile. From the sounds of it, she doesn't even have the very basics down and is uncomfortable with the whole thing. Riding around in circles at 10-20mph isn't that much different on dirt vs asphalt... and could help her gain some confidence.

There is a reason they have a dirt version. Riding around on a fat pig mini cruiser /= light small dirtbike.

http://www.dirtbikeschool.org/

I am not a fan of the MSF anyway. Think it's a waste of time, only reason to do it is to get the insurance discount.

azoomm · 05-25-2012, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trip

If he is wanting her to ride dirt, this is almost useless and will teach bad dirt habits. Unless he can find the dirt oriented version.

Just keep practicing with her if you can't find something specific. Find out if this is where her heart is or if this is an activity you are projecting on her.

Yeah, I wouldn't MSF in this case either. I'd find someone else to teach her though.

There are a TON of dirt classes out there.

skiergirl · 05-25-2012, 02:43 PM

some people, men and women just aren't meant to ride a bike! it's that simple! From what you said she has crashed every single time she's thrown a leg over a dirt bike. That's a problem. I crashed plenty riding too when I started, mainly sliding out in corners but if you crash every single time, you're doing something wrong. I LOVE to ride, I'm not fast enough to make all the big doubles and I roll some shit I shouldn't be rolling on the track but I LOVE being out there. I come back to the truck after laps on the track with a huge grin on my face. If she doesn't love it like that you're wasting your time. You only put effort into things you truly want for yourself and if she can't get over her fear she's a danger to herself and those around her.

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05-25-2012, 01:13 AM	#23
Sean giggity Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: socal Moto: street, sumo & dirty Posts: 1,071	The first time she soloed on a bike it shot away from her into a wall and she had to put her wrist in a sling for two weeks. It's not "girl brain", it's a very logical reaction. Anyone would be a little spooked if this were their first experience on a bike. Not helpful.

05-25-2012, 08:38 AM	#24
azoomm moderator chick Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Hill Country TX Moto: Pasta Rockets Posts: 8,917	No, you're not understanding me. It seems, to her, riding a motorcycle is like doing complicated math. I've seen a ton of times. The only way over that is determination. SHE has to want it. Unfortunately, riding is the only way to create the muscle memory for riding. If a 125 throttle is too much for her, this might not be something for her to master. That is, unless SHE wants it. I've seen it go both ways. But, it seems the best way for her to want it is for you to walk away and do your thing. Sign her up for a class (or five) without you. I can assure you, in her head she is disappointing you. I recommend loved ones stay the heck away from someone learning to drive cars and motorcycles. Expectations, whether real or not, get in the way of the learning process.

05-25-2012, 02:43 PM	#30
skiergirl Gixxer Girl Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Kyle, TX Moto: 05 GSXR 750 & 06 YZ250F Posts: 1,424	some people, men and women just aren't meant to ride a bike! it's that simple! From what you said she has crashed every single time she's thrown a leg over a dirt bike. That's a problem. I crashed plenty riding too when I started, mainly sliding out in corners but if you crash every single time, you're doing something wrong. I LOVE to ride, I'm not fast enough to make all the big doubles and I roll some shit I shouldn't be rolling on the track but I LOVE being out there. I come back to the truck after laps on the track with a huge grin on my face. If she doesn't love it like that you're wasting your time. You only put effort into things you truly want for yourself and if she can't get over her fear she's a danger to herself and those around her.