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Old 01-07-2010, 04:16 PM   #121
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Agreed, and that's what I plan to do on the GSXR - but I still don't want to have to blind oncoming traffic if it goes out.

On the VFR, that's not an option since it runs dual H4 hi/lo (I'm also a little dubious of the light-pattern & durability of the actuated hi/lo shield - we'll see).
Just do one bulb then HID.

I have thought about doing one dim and one bright with the HID, and leaving one of each halogen. We'll see how it goes.
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Old 01-07-2010, 04:23 PM   #122
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I think that would produce somewhat of a jacked-up pattern/look.
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Old 01-07-2010, 04:40 PM   #123
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Function or form... make a decision and deal with it.
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Old 01-07-2010, 04:46 PM   #124
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Um - yeah.
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Old 01-07-2010, 04:52 PM   #125
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either look pretty with all HID's and run the risk of one of them burning out... or run one of each if you are worried about it.

Personally, I don't think the risk of a ballast going out is any greater than that of a regular bulb burning out.
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Old 01-07-2010, 05:27 PM   #126
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Or do as I already posted that I'm planning - install the HID's, but retain the stock plugs & stash a halogen bulb so that if somehow the system fails I can still throw in a bulb & have lights. I'm not 'worried' about it & if anything, I think there's less chance of the HIDs failing than the halogen burning out - but I won't be able to buy a HID bulb on the road & like to plan ahead for contingencies.

And for me it's not about 'looking pretty' nearly so much as it's about improving the light output (without an irregular pattern).
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DEI is def. good bang-for-the-buck stuff, but the problem with using that relay for HIDs is that it requires a trigger pulse, not a constant signal. Meaning you'd have to use a momentary button to manually turn them on - fine if that's what you want, but not automatic as headlights should be.

This one is the best, most compact solution I found - and solid-state transistor vs. mechanical coil (more expensive though): http://www.wolstentech.com/products/...delayrelay.php
Thanks for that. May have to order a set. I'm going to be running 3 HID bulbs and therefore 3 ballasts. One headlight and two spot lights. I think running the headlight H4 (hi/lo combo) on one relay, then the other 2 ballasts on another relay.


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To my mind, the advantage of prolonging the bulb/ballast is more about reducing the possibility of being caught on a trip w/ a dead headlight (though I plan to retain the stock plug & stash a halogen bulb as backup) + the hassle of removing/returning/reinstalling.

Oh - and I gave in & ordered sets for both the GSXR & VFR after seeing that smokin' deal you posted & reading various positive reviews on them. I'll post install pics when ever I throw them in over the winter.
Thanks for the heads-up!
I too may have to stash a spare H4 in the bike. Just in case. But what's the chances of both setups I will be running going out. If the head light went out, I'd still have the spots or vise versa.


So next question... anybody got a good recommendation for a water proof fuse block for all of this? Maybe I should just run a larger gauge wire to the front of the bike... then fuse off each of those seperately there. Maybe a car stereo fuse block and some larger gauge wire...hmmmm

In the fairing wouldn't need to be water proof.
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Old 01-08-2010, 12:07 PM   #128
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I ordered & plan to use the '3-circuit solution' for both my bikes (1 under seat, 1 up front) for the HIDs & other accessories.
By far the most sealed/compact/cost-effective thing I found. Only drawback is you would need an open-barrel crimper (not a bad thing to have for OE-style connectors anyway, can be had for ~$30).
That fuse block he sells is a great item too, if you need all-in-one.

http://www.easternbeaver.com/Main/Pr...fuseboxes.html

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I think I'm going to go car audio style... gg to stop by there this week and see what they have.
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Thanks for that. May have to order a set. I'm going to be running 3 HID bulbs and therefore 3 ballasts. One headlight and two spot lights. I think running the headlight H4 (hi/lo combo) on one relay, then the other 2 ballasts on another relay.




I too may have to stash a spare H4 in the bike. Just in case. But what's the chances of both setups I will be running going out. If the head light went out, I'd still have the spots or vise versa.


So next question... anybody got a good recommendation for a water proof fuse block for all of this? Maybe I should just run a larger gauge wire to the front of the bike... then fuse off each of those seperately there. Maybe a car stereo fuse block and some larger gauge wire...hmmmm

In the fairing wouldn't need to be water proof.
Well I ordered 2 of those relays...
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