slow-mo chain throw - Page 2

Amber Lamps · 02-12-2011, 11:28 AM

Man, we have had this discussion....

I know that it happens but I really can't wrap my mind around it. Every time someone loses a chain they,

A. ALWAYS claim that the chain and sprockets were perfectly maintained and that the chain was correctly adjusted.

B. ALWAYS claim that the chain was correctly installed using a rivet link and the proper tools.

C. ALWAYS claim that the chain wasn't showing ANY signs of wear, kinks nor was worn/stretched out.

I have never honestly had this happen nor have I personally seen this happen. I am FAR from being a chain maintenance fiend. Heck, I maybe, lube my chain every oil change (no bs) or when I want it to look good.

I definitely don't adjust it much, maybe twice a season or when I change the rear tire. In fact, almost never other than tire changes and not always then.

Tmall · 02-12-2011, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Amber Lamps

Man, we have had this discussion....

I know that it happens but I really can't wrap my mind around it. Every time someone loses a chain they,

A. ALWAYS claim that the chain and sprockets were perfectly maintained and that the chain was correctly adjusted.

B. ALWAYS claim that the chain was correctly installed using a rivet link and the proper tools.

C. ALWAYS claim that the chain wasn't showing ANY signs of wear, kinks nor was worn/stretched out.

I have never honestly had this happen nor have I personally seen this happen. I am FAR from being a chain maintenance fiend. Heck, I maybe, lube my chain every oil change (no bs) or when I want it to look good.

I definitely don't adjust it much, maybe twice a season or when I change the rear tire. In fact, almost never other than tire changes and not always then.

The o-rings seal the grease in your chain anyway. The only benefit I can see to lubing and cleaning it is to stop corrosion.

Amber Lamps · 02-12-2011, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tmall

The o-rings seal the grease in your chain anyway. The only benefit I can see to lubing and cleaning it is to stop corrosion.

Wait...omg...we AGREE on something! Shit, get your loved ones, this was the 7th sign of the apocalypse!

JoshuaTree · 02-12-2011, 02:21 PM

What is this chain maintenance you all seem to talk about regularly?

Rangerscott · 02-12-2011, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tmall

The o-rings seal the grease in your chain anyway. The only benefit I can see to lubing and cleaning it is to stop corrosion.

It's to keep the o-rings from drying out.

Tmall · 02-12-2011, 06:23 PM

I believe they're made of Nitrile. And I don't understand how they would dry out.

Just be careful what you use to clean it. Gasoline and carb cleaner make the o-rings swell and degrade.

Rangerscott · 02-12-2011, 09:18 PM

Friction from rubbing the plates, heat cycles, weather, dirt, sun bathing and so on.

If you want to buy a new chain and never lube it to do a test then do it. Make a short vid everyday.

derf · 02-12-2011, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rangerscott

Friction from rubbing the plates, heat cycles, weather, dirt, sun bathing and so on.

If you want to buy a new chain and never lube it to do a test then do it. Make a short vid everyday.

I dunno about all you scientific experts and stuff, but I was laways taught that a chain needed to be lubed, I've never had an issue or short life with a chain that I've installed.

The only 2 chains that I've installed that needed changing both lasted over 20k so I was happy with that. The other chains, have had the bike replaced before the chain.

My method, spray the chain after riding in the rain or though lots of puddles, also spray when I remember to spray it, leave the chain just a little on the loose side, adjust it as needed usually around 3-4 thousand miles, clean it off with a rag once in a while.

Tmall · 02-13-2011, 12:24 AM

Just to clarify. I'm not saying don't lube your chain. I'm just saying that most of the protection is already there.

Mr Lefty · 02-13-2011, 01:24 PM

A LOT of offroad riders and dualsport riders don't lube their chain due to 1. like Tsmall said, the lube is already there and 2. the lube just make dirt and grime stick to the chain wearing it out faster.

I've had two chains on the DRZ in 21000 miles and I cleaned/lubed them once a week.

a fellow DRZ rider down here only rides off road but has about 10000 on his chain never lubed... just cleaned...

YMMV

02-12-2011, 02:21 PM	#14
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02-12-2011, 11:28 AM	#11
Amber Lamps Moto GP Star Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 14,556	Man, we have had this discussion.... I know that it happens but I really can't wrap my mind around it. Every time someone loses a chain they, A. ALWAYS claim that the chain and sprockets were perfectly maintained and that the chain was correctly adjusted. B. ALWAYS claim that the chain was correctly installed using a rivet link and the proper tools. C. ALWAYS claim that the chain wasn't showing ANY signs of wear, kinks nor was worn/stretched out. I have never honestly had this happen nor have I personally seen this happen. I am FAR from being a chain maintenance fiend. Heck, I maybe, lube my chain every oil change (no bs) or when I want it to look good. I definitely don't adjust it much, maybe twice a season or when I change the rear tire. In fact, almost never other than tire changes and not always then.

02-12-2011, 06:23 PM	#16
Tmall Aspiring Rapper Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Halifax, NS Moto: '12 CB1000R Posts: 3,569	I believe they're made of Nitrile. And I don't understand how they would dry out. Just be careful what you use to clean it. Gasoline and carb cleaner make the o-rings swell and degrade.

02-12-2011, 09:18 PM	#17
Rangerscott Viff6N Mutated Warrior Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Texas Moto: '01 Honda VFR 800 & '09 ER-6N Posts: 8,704	Friction from rubbing the plates, heat cycles, weather, dirt, sun bathing and so on. If you want to buy a new chain and never lube it to do a test then do it. Make a short vid everyday.

02-13-2011, 12:24 AM	#19
Tmall Aspiring Rapper Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Halifax, NS Moto: '12 CB1000R Posts: 3,569	Just to clarify. I'm not saying don't lube your chain. I'm just saying that most of the protection is already there.

02-13-2011, 01:24 PM	#20
Mr Lefty TWFix Legend Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Denver CO Moto: 01 BMW F650GS Dakar Posts: 15,677	A LOT of offroad riders and dualsport riders don't lube their chain due to 1. like Tsmall said, the lube is already there and 2. the lube just make dirt and grime stick to the chain wearing it out faster. I've had two chains on the DRZ in 21000 miles and I cleaned/lubed them once a week. a fellow DRZ rider down here only rides off road but has about 10000 on his chain never lubed... just cleaned... YMMV