new VFR must really suck.

[JoshuaTree]

The new VFR is fantastic. Finally BMW gets to give up the fugliest bike award to another manufacturer.

[EpyonXero]

Originally Posted by Rangerscott

Already have some guys on a vfr board be able to test ride one. They said the added weight isn't felt with the added power. It handles just fine.


I'm not sure where people are getting, "handles like shit" from. 1. They haven't ridden it. 2. Everyone was "O snap" when they saw the goldwing dragon vids. So I'm still confused on where the shit is coming from.

Honda knows that most VFR owners are crotchedy middle aged men who HATE change. Id probably ban them from my tests. Leave it to the professional testers who are generally pretty objective.

[Rangerscott]

Originally Posted by EpyonXero

Honda knows that most VFR owners are crotchedy middle aged men who HATE change. Id probably ban them from my tests. Leave it to the professional testers who are generally pretty objective.

So there's more "professionals" out there than their are every day riders like you and me?


I dont need a race track bike. I need an every day bike.

[EpyonXero]

Originally Posted by Rangerscott

So there's more "professionals" out there than their are every day riders like you and me?


I dont need a race track bike. I need an every day bike.

Not professional riders, professional reviewers.

[MILK]

Originally Posted by EpyonXero

Honda knows that most VFR owners are crotchedy middle aged men who HATE change. Id probably ban them from my tests. Leave it to the professional testers who are generally pretty objective.

Wrong but funny!!

[Rangerscott]

A professional can tell me all day what I need, but that doesnt mean I'm going to like/enjoy/want it.

[marko138]

Originally Posted by tommymac

kawi made some nice upgrades this year too, I realy liked the fjr more but kawis doing all the right stuff.

Yeah, I just read the article in the latest SR about the updated Connie. How about a company actually listened to what the consumers wanted.

[Dave]

Originally Posted by marko138

Yeah, I just read the article in the latest SR about the updated Connie. How about a company actually listened to what the consumers wanted.

and kawi still wont get any respect for it

[marko138]

Originally Posted by Dave

and kawi still wont get any respect for it

Maybe. It's certainly not the kind of bike I'm looking for, but I can respect the fact that they took consumers wants in to mind.

[tommymac]

Originally Posted by marko138

Yeah, I just read the article in the latest SR about the updated Connie. How about a company actually listened to what the consumers wanted.

I skimmed through that article, but plan to read it next time I am in my office at home

I think yamaha did similar things with the fjr, I know heat was an issue with the older generations and they adressed that, I guess the ST market is that competitive that they listen to wha tthey have to say.


As for the magazine reviews I usualy take them with a grain of salt, you dont know what sort of bias they have for or against a bike. Plus it seems like all of them now jsut flog the bikes at a race track and post their times.