New York City bans outdoor smoking

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by EtyrnuSS

Just playing devils advocate, but you ever think its because they are tired and don't give a fuck because they are treated like second class citizens?

Speaking from personal experience, its a hard fucking habit to break, and a lot of people don't have the mental strength to do it. I did it after 3 tries over 2 1/2 years of trying.

Not once because, in my 47 years of life, smokers have always done the same thing. They just have a different excuse now.

[Particle Man]

Originally Posted by EtyrnuSS

Just playing devils advocate, but you ever think its because they are tired and don't give a fuck because they are treated like second class citizens?

Maybe they get treated like second class citizens because they throw their shit on the ground

[Adeptus_Minor]

What needs to be banned and/or punishable by severe beating is tossing lit butts out the window. If smoking it in the car doesn't bother you, why the hell can't you snuff the goddamn thing in your ash tray, or a coke can, or wtf ever?
I don't like getting showered with sparks, and when it's as dry as it is down here right now, it's fucking careless and asinine... you're going to cause a roadside grass fire.

Sorry, saw some asshole toss a lit butt on the way to work tonight and that shit never ceases to piss me off.
I'm all for smokers' rights, but that bothers me a lot more than 2nd hand smoke.

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by Adeptus_Minor

What needs to be banned and/or punishable by severe beating is tossing lit butts out the window. If smoking it in the car doesn't bother you, why the hell can't you snuff the goddamn thing in your ash tray, or a coke can, or wtf ever?

Because it screws with the resale value and makes the car smell like an ashtray, so they can't resell it as a 'smoke free vehicle'

[Adeptus_Minor]

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

Because it screws with the resale value and makes the car smell like an ashtray, so they can't resell it as a 'smoke free vehicle'

Oh yeah, I've heard the justifications... it just doesn't hold up to the sniff test.

[Flexin]

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

Because it screws with the resale value and makes the car smell like an ashtray, so they can't resell it as a 'smoke free vehicle'

Yeah I got in an argument with my uncle. I was telling him how back smoking cars where when I had my detail shop. He said what I did in my highway tractor was to crack the window and all the smell goes out the window. Bullshit. I told him that all that does is throw ashes around the cab. I detailed many like that and that shit don't work.

Its just that smokers can't smell the smoke in the car. If you were in a smokers car to long detailing it, you had a hard time smelling to see if it was better because the smell was in your nose for the rest of the day.

That is nasty shit.

James

[EtyrnuSS]

Bah, fuck it, don't know whay I gave a shit anyway, since I'm an ex-smoker.

[Papa_Complex]

Here's one of the biggest issues, as I see it. This sort of thing ends up getting codified, because people just can't be fucking reasonable. I shouldn't have to ask someone, to stop blowing smoke in my direction while I'm eating dinner. They should be reasonable enough, to consider the ramifications of their actions.

Instead people get all up in arms about their 'rights', on both sides of the issue. Try being a reasonable fucking human being.

[EtyrnuSS]

Papa, you just hit the nail on the head. People no longer can think to be courteous, or display common sense, because that kind of thinking isn't allowed anymore. If they Gov't doesn't tell them to do it they can't.

[Mudpuppy]

smoke em if you got em