Heroic Racing... - Page 2

Homeslice · 10-29-2011, 12:58 PM

Rebranded gear. There's no way a one-man operation can make his own full line of gear, test it, certify it, AND sell it, AND have the time to dick around on message forums, defending himself......especially when it looks like pretty decent quality gear, which takes a lot of time and investment to develop. He probably just acquired the rights to resell someone's stuff, and changed the graphics a little. Those boots look VERY familiar.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.....It looks very good quality.......But he'll eventually fade out when people realize it's worth paying a little more for the comfort of knowing who exactly made their shit.

Homeslice · 10-29-2011, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho

Did a little bit of searching over there... don't know what you meant by your comment, but I did find that the admin/mods over there edited/deleted posts/threads with criticism... So in other words, that place is in the pocket of the vendors... bullshit. I fucking HATE boards like that. Fuck that place...

I did find one unedited post where someone claims that they have posted fake customer reviews on various forums... I'd like to say I'm surprised....

WERA is run by a moron, worse than Fred from the SBN days.

tommymac · 10-29-2011, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice

WERA is run by a moron, worse than Fred from the SBN days.

Mongo is the worst, he has his inner circle and everyone else hates him

Homeslice · 10-29-2011, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho

Oh, and this thread I found while Googling, where it looks like he SPAM's 600rr.net's boards to avoid the vendor status by advertising... http://www.600rr.net/vb/showthread.php?t=200691

Near the end of that thread, someone said they posted on his FB about the debate that was going on, but he never came back to explain himself...lol

azoomm · 10-30-2011, 07:59 PM

That doesn't sound like Todd. I've known him for a few years now, and that isn't how he is usually. Really.

And, it's not rebranded crap. It's tremendous gear.

This thread makes me want to check on him....

Homeslice · 10-30-2011, 08:19 PM

It may be tremendous, but that doesn't mean it isn't rebranded. I'm sure there are several smaller manufacturers who would be willing to let people re-brand their gear, in order to expand their market.

Those air force-style helmets that came out a few years ago, with the LED lights on the back? They were rebranded Vemars.

How many employees does he have? Gear of that quality would take more than just a 1- or 5-man shop to design, test, manufacture, and sell.

shmike · 10-30-2011, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice

It may be tremendous, but that doesn't mean it isn't rebranded. I'm sure there are several smaller manufacturers who would be willing to let people re-brand their gear, in order to expand their market.

Those air force-style helmets that came out a few years ago, with the LED lights on the back? They were rebranded Vemars.

How many employees does he have? Gear of that quality would take more than just a 1- or 5-man shop to design, test, manufacture, and sell.

You talk with such conviction, I almost want to believe you.

Some of the best suit manufacturers I can think of are all small operations.

Ask racers about Syed, Barnacle Bill, Crush, Bates, Pilot, hell, even Vanson was a small shop once upon a time.

Homeslice · 10-30-2011, 10:56 PM

Syed is a good example.....or Kobe, or Pilot.......or how about Spyke, remember them?.........Those companies aren't exactly blowing the doors off with sales. Their advertising sucks, if they advertise at all.......So, assuming they have excess capacity, why not let someone like Heroic open up a new market for their gear?

Papa_Complex · 11-01-2011, 02:59 PM

He got in a bit of a dust-up, a little while back, with Velocity Sportsgear over who came up with what design first, on our local board.

10-29-2011, 12:58 PM	#11
Homeslice Elitist Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: SF Bay Area Moto: Gix 750 Posts: 11,351	Rebranded gear. There's no way a one-man operation can make his own full line of gear, test it, certify it, AND sell it, AND have the time to dick around on message forums, defending himself......especially when it looks like pretty decent quality gear, which takes a lot of time and investment to develop. He probably just acquired the rights to resell someone's stuff, and changed the graphics a little. Those boots look VERY familiar. Not that there's anything wrong with that.....It looks very good quality.......But he'll eventually fade out when people realize it's worth paying a little more for the comfort of knowing who exactly made their shit. Last edited by Homeslice; 10-29-2011 at 01:29 PM..

10-30-2011, 08:19 PM	#16
Homeslice Elitist Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: SF Bay Area Moto: Gix 750 Posts: 11,351	It may be tremendous, but that doesn't mean it isn't rebranded. I'm sure there are several smaller manufacturers who would be willing to let people re-brand their gear, in order to expand their market. Those air force-style helmets that came out a few years ago, with the LED lights on the back? They were rebranded Vemars. How many employees does he have? Gear of that quality would take more than just a 1- or 5-man shop to design, test, manufacture, and sell. Last edited by Homeslice; 10-30-2011 at 08:26 PM..

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Papa_Complex Nomadic Tribesman Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Brampton, Canada Moto: '09 ER-6n Posts: 11,150	He got in a bit of a dust-up, a little while back, with Velocity Sportsgear over who came up with what design first, on our local board. __________________ "Everything's better with pirates." - Lodge, "Dorkness Rising" http://www.morallyambiguous.net/

10-30-2011, 07:59 PM	#15
azoomm moderator chick Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Hill Country TX Moto: Pasta Rockets Posts: 8,917	That doesn't sound like Todd. I've known him for a few years now, and that isn't how he is usually. Really. And, it's not rebranded crap. It's tremendous gear. This thread makes me want to check on him....

10-30-2011, 10:56 PM	#18
Homeslice Elitist Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: SF Bay Area Moto: Gix 750 Posts: 11,351	Syed is a good example.....or Kobe, or Pilot.......or how about Spyke, remember them?.........Those companies aren't exactly blowing the doors off with sales. Their advertising sucks, if they advertise at all.......So, assuming they have excess capacity, why not let someone like Heroic open up a new market for their gear?