How would you go about laying your bike down? - Page 2

pauldun170 · 11-09-2009, 11:04 PM

Too be blunt....
I do not know of anyone who has laid a bike down intentionally.
I know plenty of people who wiped out and claimed they did it intentionally (cause real men are always in control and would never fuck up!!

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tached1000rr · 11-09-2009, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by pauldun170

Too be blunt....
I do not know of anyone who has laid a bike down intentionally.
I know plenty of people who wiped out and claimed they did it intentionally (cause real men are always in control and would never fuck up!!

)

Certainly a valid point.

racedoll · 11-09-2009, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by tached1000rr

Yup! Scratched up the right side fairing, broke turn signals, have yet to see it but will be getting it back in shape for him. It's still rideable, just has a bit more "character" at the moment.

Other than being a little bit sore and having a sore toe

He's okay too...

Glad to hear he is OK. I was going to ask that next.

Gas Man · 11-09-2009, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The Awesome

NEVER intentionally crash your motorcycle. When you crash, you relinquish all control over your vehicle and the situation. Additionally, every last moment you can spend braking is a significant reduction in impact force with another object.

True!

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Originally Posted by pauldun170

Too be blunt....
I do not know of anyone who has laid a bike down intentionally.
I know plenty of people who wiped out and claimed they did it intentionally (cause real men are always in control and would never fuck up!!

)

Also probably true

And I would just hit the stoppers as hard as I can.

The act of "laying it down" would involve sliding the rear end out and low siding. In order to do that you have to lock up the rear wheel, turn the bars and tuck the bike towards the pavement.

On my new HD with ABS this is probably going to be impossible. You can't lock up the wheels. Lord knows I've tried... just ask Marko! Damn near did a stoppie in the rain in PA. He looked at me like WTF I just told him I was trying to test the ABS. LOL

racedoll · 11-09-2009, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Gas Man

On my new HD with ABS this is probably going to be impossible. You can't lock up the wheels. Lord knows I've tried... just ask Marko! Damn near did a stoppie in the rain in PA. He looked at me like WTF I just told him I was trying to test the ABS. LOL

Too bad you didn't get this on video, sounds pretty sweet! LOL. Glad nothing happened to you though.

t-homo · 11-10-2009, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by pauldun170

Too be blunt....
I do not know of anyone who has laid a bike down intentionally.
I know plenty of people who wiped out and claimed they did it intentionally (cause real men are always in control and would never fuck up!!

)

That is what i've always thought.

Speedracer42 · 11-10-2009, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by pauldun170

Too be blunt....
I do not know of anyone who has laid a bike down intentionally.
I know plenty of people who wiped out and claimed they did it intentionally (cause real men are always in control and would never fuck up!!

)

TOTALLY agree with the Awesome and Pauldun. I call BS when people say "they had to lay the bike down" Really? You had such presence of mind to know you were in trouble that you chose to GIVE UP slowing the bike down with both tires on the ground and pitch it to the pavement? Thats fucking retarded. You have brakes and most bikes, esp sportbikes are capable of incredible braking. Use that until you can't anymore. Period

askmrjesus · 11-10-2009, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Speedracer42

TOTALLY agree with the Awesome and Pauldun. I call BS when people say "they had to lay the bike down" Really? You had such presence of mind to know you were in trouble that you chose to GIVE UP slowing the bike down with both tires on the ground and pitch it to the pavement? Thats fucking retarded. You have brakes and most bikes, esp sportbikes are capable of incredible braking. Use that until you can't anymore. Period

Oh you kids these days.

There was a time when knowing how to lay your bike down, was considered an essential skill. Granted, this was in the days of drum brakes, which of course, sucked. But it's still a viable option in extreme circumstances.

Given the choice between hitting a car, truck, moose, etc., and dumping your bike before you hit said big fucking thing in your way that is going to totally fuck your shit up, you would be a fool to not try it.

I've never had to do it on the street, but I have done it on the dirt. Both times it was completely my own fault. Once, going too fast towards a corner on a downhill run, it became apparent that there was no fucking way I was going to make the turn. I had misjudged the "road" surface, and my brakes were not slowing me down fast enough. The choice was dump, or go over a fairly nasty cliff. I chose dump. Seemed like a good idea at the time.

The mechanics of it are very simple. Grab a hand full of brake, and whack the bars in the opposite direction of where you "want" to fall. You will essentially counter steer yourself into the ground. The hard part is making yourself commit, and it's obviously not something you want to practice, however, if you have absolutely no where to go, it's a hell of a lot better to crack a couple of ribs, than to stick your head through the side a Buick, just so you can say it wasn't your fault.

JC

Curb · 11-10-2009, 08:54 AM

Just the reaction time alone needed to make that snap decision is all the time that it takes for you to hit the car. Usually if a car turns in front of you it is at the last second. I think it is virtually impossible to make up your mind that fast that you are going to lay the bike down and then do it...just not enough time. And like Fleck said, if you lay the bike down you relinquish all your legal rights to the driver who cut you off.

Back in January when I got into my accident, even though I hit the lady from behind the cop still gave her the ticket, the cop determined that it was her fault for causing the accident. Now think about if I would've had enough time to lay the bike down and avoid the accident. My bike would've been wrecked and I still would've gone to the hospital and I would have to foot the bill for the whole thing. Instead make that bitch pay and go on a nice vacation. Of course I am still minus a bike, but that is because I am paying off some other stuff first.

marko138 · 11-10-2009, 10:43 AM

I'll never lay it down on purpose. For all the reasons mentioned above. I'm going down fighting till the last second.

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Curb resident gimp Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: SoFla Moto: a big ole steamin pile of nothin Posts: 1,344	Just the reaction time alone needed to make that snap decision is all the time that it takes for you to hit the car. Usually if a car turns in front of you it is at the last second. I think it is virtually impossible to make up your mind that fast that you are going to lay the bike down and then do it...just not enough time. And like Fleck said, if you lay the bike down you relinquish all your legal rights to the driver who cut you off. Back in January when I got into my accident, even though I hit the lady from behind the cop still gave her the ticket, the cop determined that it was her fault for causing the accident. Now think about if I would've had enough time to lay the bike down and avoid the accident. My bike would've been wrecked and I still would've gone to the hospital and I would have to foot the bill for the whole thing. Instead make that bitch pay and go on a nice vacation. Of course I am still minus a bike, but that is because I am paying off some other stuff first. __________________ Steve Political correctness is killing this country