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Old 04-21-2009, 02:25 PM   #11
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If the unions won't budge (help/back off/stop choking the ever-living-life out of the auto industry) what do you expect?
Up here the union gave GM exactly what they wanted. Now Chrysler is dicking around with the process trying to end up in a more favourable position, rather than save their corporate asses.
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Old 04-21-2009, 03:10 PM   #12
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if the unions won't budge (help/back off/stop choking the ever-living-life out of the auto industry) what do you expect?
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Old 04-21-2009, 09:50 PM   #13
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What are they used for? Reefer trucks for food delivery?
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Old 04-22-2009, 01:58 PM   #14
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Yet another reason GM is going under. Unbelievable.

http://jalopnik.com/5222908/2010-che...-brake-weights

Forumites at Camaro5 have been collectively scratching their heads for a couple days, wondering why there appear to be two layers of lead wheel weights stuck onto their brake calipers. It's a mystery Charlie Brown!

The confusion started when a poster uploaded an image of his new Camaro's Brembo calipers, on which were riding two rows of lead weights, normally affixed to the inside of a wheel rim to balance the tire. This led everyone with a Camaro to run outside to see it their mullet machine's also had the weights, which they do, at least on among the folks on the forum. GM has not answered to the confusion yet, but the leading theory is they were place on the caliper as a quick and dirty fix to alleviate brake squeal. From a physics perspective, this explanation is plausible, as resonant frequency is in large part determined by mass, and by changing the vibrating mass of the caliper with the weights, a troublesome squeal would be eliminated for a particular driving condition.

The trouble is if they're using normal brake weights, the heat cycling of the caliper will eventually cause the adhesive to fail and, if things get too serious on the track, the lead could actually melt. Though it's an odd issue and not really a big deal, we'll be keeping you in on the loop during Camaro brake-gate, though we recommend Camaro owners visit their local dealer and have their muffler bearings, blinker fluid, and piston-return springs checked out, just in case.


Holy shit. If you have the time to read up on some of the dumbest interweb posters ever, go to the Camaro5 forum. Unbelievable. Those peeps really love their Camaros.
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Old 04-22-2009, 02:10 PM   #15
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on tv news earlier: GM CFO says they won't be able to payback 1st installmant of $1b in June
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Old 04-22-2009, 04:58 PM   #16
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Too big or too stupid to fail? Wonder if the engineer who designed that caliper went to a gub'ment school?
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Old 04-22-2009, 05:10 PM   #17
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Too big or too stupid to fail? Wonder if the engineer who designed that caliper went to a gub'ment school?
Good lord, I am hooked on that thread. Its like a bad car crash, you know you shouldn't look but you just can't help it.
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Old 04-22-2009, 09:03 PM   #18
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Ehhh...this is done all the time. Lexus used to put a big hunk of rubber on its engines for lower vibrations. Weights are put on driveshafts, drums, wheels etc. etc. etc. Those don't seem to fall off.
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Old 04-22-2009, 09:17 PM   #19
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Ehhh...this is done all the time. Lexus used to put a big hunk of rubber on its engines for lower vibrations. Weights are put on driveshafts, drums, wheels etc. etc. etc. Those don't seem to fall off.
Purpose made, or half-assed MacGyverings like that abortion?
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Old 04-23-2009, 01:15 AM   #20
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Purpose made, or half-assed MacGyverings like that abortion?

I never even looked at the pic...

Yep its total ghetto. LOL
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