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Old 07-02-2010, 02:22 AM   #241
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Wouldn't it be better if we were all born with a million dollar trust and had a wet nurse built like Pam Anderson? Or in this case, wouldn't it have been better if he hadn't gotten into the wreck in the first place?

Yes, it would be fucking awesome, but that's not the world we live in. I'm not making fun of your question, I'm just showing that from my perspective I live in a world with realistic expectations. People are not ever going to be at 100% alertness on any consistent basis, that's not the way the world works. My argument is that using marijuana has such a negligible effect on a person's CNS, cognitive and other functions that it should be viewed and overlooked the same way we do other accepted behaviors, such as drinking copious amounts of caffeine to make it through a tough shift, driving cars when we are tired from a long day, and so on and so forth.

My other point of contention is that even though you continuously point out how dopeheads are likely to kill someone driving while high, you admit to using a cell phone while driving a motor vehicle, something that is actually proven to greatly increase the likelyhood of a motor vehicle collision.

Would it be better if you didn't drive and talk at the same time? Yes, you would be less distracted....but that's not the world we live in, and I don't hold it against you for talking and driving, I don't look down on you, think you're addicted to your phone, or anything of the sort. Whereas you would look at someone who hit a joint before they left for work in the morning and think lowly of them, to the point of calling them an addict or dopehead.
Yea but here's the real difference between me and your friend Avatard, I respect your right to have an opinion. It's not a matter of right and wrong necessarily. I don't agree that it's "impossible" to live in a world where the people in the medical profession aren't overworked, jacked up on Red Bull or high. I think that it's very possible but it will take some reformation of the medical establishment. Oh and I know several EMTs and last I knew they are drug tested so I'm not sure how they are all out smoking dope... Oh and I think that the driving while impaired argument, may have been about drinking but regardless you can justify a wrong by pointing out that I'm doing something wrong... How does that make what you're doing okay? If I take pot shots at passing school buses with an M24, will that make it okay for you to molest children? Of course not.

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Old 07-02-2010, 02:23 AM   #242
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Um the Civil War was fought over state's rights and slavery but basically, we went from slavery to the presidency in 150 years, not too shabby. Anyway, if there really were an overwhelming majority of voters that wanted pot to be legalized, it would be. real talk.
And there would be, were they not victims of a very effective propaganda campaign. Real talk
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Yea but here's the real difference between me and your friend Avatard, I respect your right to have an opinion. It's not a matter of right and wrong necessarily. I don't agree that it's "impossible" to live in a world where the people in the medical profession aren't overworked, jacked up on Red Bull or high. I think that it's very possible but it will take some reformation of the medical establishment. Oh and I know several EMTs and last I knew they are drug tested so I'm not sure how they are all out smoking dope...
Avatar and I both know that your opinions on this subject are based on lies...so its a special situation so to speak.

Drug tests are very simple to beat.
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Old 07-02-2010, 02:45 AM   #244
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Avatar and I both know that your opinions on this subject are based on lies...so its a special situation so to speak.

Drug tests are very simple to beat.
Actually, most of my opinions are based on personal experience... I don't think that someone can operate at their peak level high... I've been high, I've seen high, I know what high is and people that are high aren't firing on all cylinders imho.
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Old 07-02-2010, 03:07 AM   #245
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i'm high right now and my tv watching and pizza eating abilities are at their peak right now.
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Actually, most of my opinions are based on personal experience... I don't think that someone can operate at their peak level high... I've been high, I've seen high, I know what high is and people that are high aren't firing on all cylinders imho.
Smoking pot in high school is hardly enough experience to fall back on...that was what, like 1956? The game had changed since then.
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Old 07-02-2010, 11:06 AM   #247
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I have only said people shouldn't use it when it's use can cause harm to others..
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I honestly believe that we all should strive to eliminate them from the world and that we would be so much better off with out them.
All that pot you're not smoking, seems to be clouding your little brain again.

I think we should strive to rid the world of douchebags who are addicted to white leather motorcycle gear, and shiny bling with buttons on it. No one NEEDS that stuff, and I don't like it, so fuck what other people want.

Folks have been seeking ways to make life a little more bearable since the beginning of recorded history. If you think that's all going to stop, you're on glue.

It's not our fault that your family is comprised of losers who can't handle their shit, so take your "life would be so much better" bullshit, and fuck off.

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Old 07-02-2010, 01:59 PM   #248
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All that pot you're not smoking, seems to be clouding your little brain again.

I think we should strive to rid the world of douchebags who are addicted to white leather motorcycle gear, and shiny bling with buttons on it. No one NEEDS that stuff, and I don't like it, so fuck what other people want.

Folks have been seeking ways to make life a little more bearable since the beginning of recorded history. If you think that's all going to stop, you're on glue.

It's not our fault that your family is comprised of losers who can't handle their shit, so take your "life would be so much better" bullshit, and fuck off.

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Old 07-02-2010, 02:07 PM   #249
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Smoking pot in high school is hardly enough experience to fall back on...that was what, like 1956? The game had changed since then.
"the game"? I know that you think that you are still at your peak performance when you are high but I disagree. At any rate, my only real opinion is that people shouldn't use drugs/alcohol at work. The rest is unimportant to me. I still can't make sense of your "since they are already over-fatigued" or "because you talk on the phone while driving" arguments and why it makes a case for workplace drug use. If in fact, an EMT is already fatigued, why would you want to add pot to the equation? Also, if I and my fellow blue tooth users are already endangering the roadways, why would you want to add drivers that are high?
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In any case, bro. I was mostly just trying to bs with you while you were up all night with your son. Now that the big guns have come out and insulted me and my family, I'm out. Hopefully we can find another thread to help pass the time or you can pm me if you'd like. Later.
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