Punishing kids

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by azoomm

Props to you for knowing how to get your child to pay attention. I don't understand raising a hand to solve a problem, or teaching your children that pain is the best answer to get someone to pay attention.

I don't know about that. Today's children, who have largely been raised without corporal punishment, frequently don't seem to understand that their actions have consequences. I don't think that it's necessarily wrong to physically discipline your children. It's simply that many people don't understand when it's appropriate to do so. Spanking a child for crying is ineffective. Spanking a child for destroying the kitchen is.

[azoomm]

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

I don't know about that. Today's children, who have largely been raised without corporal punishment, frequently don't seem to understand that their actions have consequences. I don't think that it's necessarily wrong to physically discipline your children. It's simply that many people don't understand when it's appropriate to do so. Spanking a child for crying is ineffective. Spanking a child for destroying the kitchen is.

Sorry, but I don't agree with any form of corporal punishment. Though, I feel too many of today's parents are trying to give their kids a hug and a cookie for their actions. THAT is moronic, at best. There should be a better balance.

Animals punish their young with pain, we are above that. We have opposable thumbs and are supposedly intelligent creatures. Yet, we continue to bruise our way through our lives. Awesome.

[z06boy]

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by azoomm

Sorry, but I don't agree with any form of corporal punishment. Though, I feel too many of today's parents are trying to give their kids a hug and a cookie for their actions. THAT is moronic, at best. There should be a better balance.

Animals punish their young with pain, we are above that. We have opposable thumbs and are supposedly intelligent creatures. Yet, we continue to bruise our way through our lives. Awesome.

Different people, different views. We do agree though regarding the cookie thing though.

The thing about pain is that it's immediate and effective. It worked for many, many generations.

[VatorMan]

Originally Posted by azoomm

Sorry, but I don't agree with any form of corporal punishment. Though, I feel too many of today's parents are trying to give their kids a hug and a cookie for their actions. THAT is moronic, at best. There should be a better balance.

Animals punish their young with pain, we are above that. We have opposable thumbs and are supposedly intelligent creatures. Yet, we continue to bruise our way through our lives. Awesome.

My kids-Honest, hardworking tax paying citizens. Your kids-liberal or hippies or both.

[Mr Lefty]

Originally Posted by VatorMan

My kids-Honest, hardworking tax paying citizens. Your kids-liberal or hippies or both.

I wouldn't say that... with out meeting Azoom...

I've met her and her daughter... (oldest I think) when I went to dinner with them, Archren and GRex... and I wouldn't put that label on either her or her daughter.

I'm a proponent of spanking kids, BUT I don't think it's needed for everyone. I just don't like the idea that it's not right for ANYONE.

me... I needed my ass beat growing up.

it's the main part of being a parent to be engaged enough to realize just WHAT your child needs.

[azoomm]

Originally Posted by VatorMan

My kids-Honest, hardworking tax paying citizens. Your kids-liberal or hippies or both.

yup, that's my kids....

Sorry,

[Kaneman]

Originally Posted by azoomm

Sorry, but I don't agree with any form of corporal punishment. Though, I feel too many of today's parents are trying to give their kids a hug and a cookie for their actions. THAT is moronic, at best. There should be a better balance.

Animals punish their young with pain, we are above that. We have opposable thumbs and are supposedly intelligent creatures. Yet, we continue to bruise our way through our lives. Awesome.

All I know is that neither of the two boys I've raised have ever, not once, thrown any kind of fit in public. I can count on my hands how many times in their life they've ever given me anything other than a "yes sir" when they've been told to do something. I can also count on my hands how many times they've actually required a spanking...but they know its an option.

Violence is sooooo under-rated these days.

[EpyonXero]

Originally Posted by azoomm

Animals punish their young with pain, we are above that. We have opposable thumbs and are supposedly intelligent creatures. Yet, we continue to bruise our way through our lives. Awesome.

Thats not quite true when it comes to small children. A toddler is only about as smart as a dog, you cant use reason to teach a dog.

[pauldun170]

Originally Posted by EpyonXero

Thats not quite true when it comes to small children. A toddler is only about as smart as a dog, you cant use reason to teach a dog.

...and doesn't know nor will they understand that they did something wrong and will not likely be able to properly link the offending act with the inflicted pain.

There is no reason to hit a toddler other than to validate failure as a parent.
Older kids are different but under 2?
No