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Old 11-29-2009, 08:34 PM   #1
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Well I thought current draw (amps) was calcuated by dividing the watts output by the voltage. So if I have a standard 55w halogen, divide that by 12V and that's 4.6 amps continuous draw. Right?

Thanks for the links on the relay ebbs..

If this HID is really only 6 amps startup.......then I probably wouldn't need the relay........But I dunno, seems hard to believe.
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Old 11-29-2009, 10:10 PM   #2
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Me and Trip have already had this fight but I say again... 3 years and no problems with the HIDs and my battery is the original unit. what was going on with Trip and I don't know where he got his HIDs but DDM swears that their ballast only draws 6 amps during start up which is actually LESS than some aftermarket halogens. Especially those with the higher lumen/wattage ratings.

Maybe Honda uses a crap stator. I have my Power Commander, HIDs, LEDs, J&M Integrator, Valentine 1, alarm, phone charger, and my GPS hooked up to my bike and I have never had a problem.
oh i know... I used the relay for a while but tossed it shortly after the rally as it shorted out... ran the HID's longer with out the relay than with.

I'll not have a relay on the DRZ
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Old 11-27-2009, 10:48 AM   #3
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the Hi/Lo kit is only for bikes that have bulbs with dual filiments.. ie H4 bulbs.

if your bike is like my 600RR where one bulb is for low the other for high... you either go with the dual bulb system and deal with the High taking a couple seconds to come on... or stick with a halogen high beam and get the single bulb system


YOU COULD if you're good with electrical... do a conversion... to an H4 kit... but remember your reflector wasn't built for anything but a single beam pattern... so it wouldn't do you any good.
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Old 11-27-2009, 08:00 PM   #4
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Ok... Current setup
As shown


I'm with ya guys on no need for a hid hi beam. I get that. Hell I rarely use the highbeam now. Plus when I do it kills my spot lights. And the idea of a delay for HID high beam sounds crazy. So the single is HID lo and halagon hi. Correct?

I have a H4 headlight (dual filament inside 1 headlight).

I have two spot lights with 881 bulbs. (fog light bulbs very common to cars). I love the light these put out all over. Am worried about wiring in an HID for these.

You can barely see the black wire under the spot on the left of the pic (right side spot/left in pic). Look at the blue cabinet. Once from there it goes into the fairing them I'm home free. But how long are the wires from ballast to bulb????


I was considering if I can't do a HID on the 881. Perhaps the LED replacements. I have heard good things about the H7 and H4s but nothing about the little fog light sizes.

H4
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2-x-6...#ht_3244wt_972

Example of 881
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2pcs-...item2303e2d341

I tried to call DDm but I think they are closed for the holiday.
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Old 11-27-2009, 08:16 PM   #5
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gas if you go with the H4 hi/lo kit it's magnetically actuated... it moves a shield back and forth to flip to hi/lo so there will be no delay from low to high. the only delay will be when the light FIRST ignites.
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Old 11-27-2009, 11:16 PM   #6
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Yeah I read that here
http://ddmtuning.com/support/index.p...eid=36&nav=0,2

I have seen some HIDs where they actually have a halogen bulbs sitting next to the HID for the high beam circuit.
Like this one (big pic)
http://lowdownchopshop.com/component...aea8f66c64.jpg

All it really does it make it able to complete the hi beam circuit. No other purpose. Cause as somebody said, with the HID there is no need for the high beam.
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Old 11-27-2009, 11:44 PM   #7
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true... but for high speed runs I did use the hid highs on my cbr and ZZr.

that and I run highs during the day time... more noticeable.
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Old 11-28-2009, 12:08 AM   #8
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During the day is not an issue when you have the spot lights. Probably also the case when you consider night time riding. As it stands now there is a shit load of light out the front of the bike. It lights up 5 lanes wide plus shoulder. But more is still better.

I'm set on the H4. I just need to find out on the 881 spot light bulbs.
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Old 11-28-2009, 12:16 AM   #9
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call DDM... they're kick ass to deal with.

my first order was all fucked up because I went through XenonExpert.com... they basicly take orders then have Apexcone ship them (apexcone owns DDM.com) so I called DDM and they canceled the order through XE... then replaced the order through them, and gave me 15%off for being military. AND shipped it over night for free.
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Old 11-28-2009, 12:23 AM   #10
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Yeah I tried to call them today but they were closed I think due to the holiday. Funny thing, the machine said they were open yet when I pushed 1 for sales or 2 for tech the line just rang and rang.

I just hope ther prices dont jump or somin. How long have they been discounted like this?
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