Starbucks for Valentines Day, anyone?

[TYEster]

So I gotta be the one who says it...


Since Victoria is kicked to the curb, and Liz left... What do their sisters look like?




Honestly, ban yourself from this Victoria girl, and give Liz the chance and time to get back with you. If it works, great, if not, move on. Life is too short to give up.

[azoomm]

Just don't stalk her. That doesn't end well.

[Dave]

Originally Posted by azoomm

Just don't stalk her. That doesn't end well.

I know, and im not. im giving her time and hopefully she will talk to me. If I cant convince her to take me back I'll have to let her go. It'll kill me but if she asks I can do it

[Kaneman]

Personally, I would be awfully weary of investing time and emotion into someone who has shown she has no interest in loyalty to you.

[Dave]

Originally Posted by Kaneman

Personally, I would be awfully weary of investing time and emotion into someone who has shown she has no interest in loyalty to you.

If she didnt have feelings for me she would never have gotten this upset.

there are two rules to having a penis:

#1 you are automatically wrong about everything no matter what
#2 you are automatically responsible for any wrongs done by you or anyone else who possesses a penis any time anywhere

this is a rule #2 issue. cares for me but afraid of being hurt and possibly commitment and instead of taking the risk grabs initiative and hurts me first.

[Kaneman]

Never said she didn't have feelings, I said she didn't have loyalty. From my POV anyone who would get that upset and destroy a relationship over something so non-consequential doesn't have the loyalty to stick by you in a minor problem...much less a major one. People make mistakes and a real partner stick by you through them.

Those rules suck, and it sucks to base your relationships with females on them because they're incorrect and not conductive to a healthy and awesome relationship. Just about every woman out there has been beaten, raped, molested or all three by a man. It is not automatically a reason to not be able to have a normal, trusting relationship with a good man when he comes along, which by all accounts is what you are. Based on your post I feel like this girl would leave you for mismatching your socks.

[Dave]

Originally Posted by Kaneman

Never said she didn't have feelings, I said she didn't have loyalty. From my POV anyone who would get that upset and destroy a relationship over something so non-consequential doesn't have the loyalty to stick by you in a minor problem...much less a major one. People make mistakes and a real partner stick by you through them.

Those rules suck, and it sucks to base your relationships with females on them because they're incorrect and not conductive to a healthy and awesome relationship. Just about every woman out there has been beaten, raped, molested or all three by a man. It is not automatically a reason to not be able to have a normal, trusting relationship with a good man when he comes along, which by all accounts is what you are. Based on your post I feel like this girl would leave you for mismatching your socks.

yeah, no. you're misreading

[Kaneman]

Originally Posted by Dave

yeah, no. you're misreading

I assumed you were correct so I reread your post concerning your women problems.

I stand by my posts. Perhaps I am reading correctly but you are loveblind?

[Adeptus_Minor]

Damn.. I step away from the board for a few days...
Sorry to hear about all the relationship shit, Dave.
Hope it all works out for the best.

[tallywacker]

My local starbucks in a Harley Fag biker bar. Bunch of leather covered, white collar, latte sipping pussies.