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[Captain Morgan]

Originally Posted by marko138

Totally off topic...but...I read about the ZR1 Vette...or Z something...634hp and 600 some odd ft lbs of torque! Unbelievable.

Originally Posted by Dave

its a ridiculously large supercharged v8 whats so hard to believe?

Originally Posted by marko138

Ok...not so unbelievable...as much as AWESOME.

back off topic for a second...what's unbelievable to me is that it is factory production. Unfortunately, it comes with a helluva price tag.
I'll be getting a new sportbike long before I get a new vette.

[Dave]

Originally Posted by Captain Morgan

back off topic for a second...what's unbelievable to me is that it is factory production. Unfortunately, it comes with a helluva price tag.
I'll be getting a new sportbike long before I get a new vette.

what amazes me is people will drop 100k on a car with such an awful interior

[z06boy]

Originally Posted by Dave

what amazes me is people will drop 100k on a car with such an awful interior

Because of the styling and performance.

The interior is better but still not great.

I don't understand why people pay so much for Harley Davidson's...but they do.

[Trip]

Originally Posted by z06boy

Because of the styling and performance.

The interior is better but still not great.

I don't understand why people pay so much for Harley Davidson's...but they do.

Because you are a pussy to ride a reliable cheap japanese bike.

[z06boy]

Originally Posted by Trip

Because you are a pussy to ride a reliable cheap japanese bike.

Yeah really !!

Originally Posted by Dave

styling and performance.

#1 its a higher spec of vette but its still a vette and looks enough like regular ones that non enthusiasts arent gonna be impressed.

#2 90% of the folks buying them will never access those limits. now thats not usually a huge deal, hell bikes are a great example of that. however, the way chevy built that power is THE SAME EXACT WAY YOU WOULD IF YOU WERE MODDING THE CAR AFTERMARKET! as the oem (and especially one asking so much for the product) they should have added power in a way we cant. be it an lsx based v12 or some exotic unobtanium technology. to my mind theres no reason to buy the fucker and almost no reason to build it

Well we each have an opinion and I'd say you're wrong about "no reason to buy the fucker and almost no reason to build it"...they will sell ALL of them.

I'm not interested in one...too much $$ BUT I bet they will have NO problem selling them especially since they are being built in limited supply.

[smileyman]

Really the appeal of special ed (sorry had to)vettes are no different from the Shelby Cobra GT500, the Saleen Mustang, or for that matter the Special edition Yammie R1 which came out modded with Ohlins suspension or the R7. They are limited edition bought it fast and moddified specials that will have a appeal to a certain niche of enthusiast. Performance numbers and how it ranks against it's competition (or even the regular model) doesn't really apply.

You could buy a base Mustang GT and with between $6-8000 mod it to GT 500 spec but in the end you just have a modded GT. But the Shelby GT500 badge and title mean something else all together (IMHO you spent too much). Not my cuppa I am way biased to function over form and as cheap as I can get by, but some folks (alot of them) see it different...

[Dave]

Originally Posted by smileyman

Really the appeal of special ed (sorry had to)vettes are no different from the Shelby Cobra GT500, the Saleen Mustang, or for that matter the Special edition Yammie R1 which came out modded with Ohlins suspension or the R7. They are limited edition bought it fast and moddified specials that will have a appeal to a certain niche of enthusiast. Performance numbers and how it ranks against it's competition (or even the regular model) doesn't really apply.

You could buy a base Mustang GT and with between $6-8000 mod it to GT 500 spec but in the end you just have a modded GT. But the Shelby GT500 badge and title mean something else all together (IMHO you spent too much). Not my cuppa I am way biased to function over form and as cheap as I can get by, but some folks (alot of them) see it different...

all im saying is for that bread the factory needs to do something besides slap on off the shelf parts. the eighties ZR1 cost almost double the base vette but at least you got the engineered by lotus dohc LT5 to show for it.

and z06boy, im sure you are right. im sure they will sell every one of em. if people are willing to drop eighty grand on a 40k dodge challenger im sure they'll be just fine. they just could have done so much more. hell. hows about a flat planed crank to make that sucker scream? oh wait i forgot its a legacy v8 vehicle (even though it started life as a six) and the old guys wouldnt be able to accept it if it wailed instead of rumbled. gay

[Dave]

Originally Posted by z06boy

Because of the styling and performance.

The interior is better but still not great.

I don't understand why people pay so much for Harley Davidson's...but they do.

styling and performance.

#1 its a higher spec of vette but its still a vette and looks enough like regular ones that non enthusiasts arent gonna be impressed.

#2 90% of the folks buying them will never access those limits. now thats not usually a huge deal, hell bikes are a great example of that. however, the way chevy built that power is THE SAME EXACT WAY YOU WOULD IF YOU WERE MODDING THE CAR AFTERMARKET! as the oem (and especially one asking so much for the product) they should have added power in a way we cant. be it an lsx based v12 or some exotic unobtanium technology. to my mind theres no reason to buy the fucker and almost no reason to build it

[Carolina]

new zuk



lol

[dReWpY]

what bike?