critique this shiznit - Page 2

pauldun170 · 02-05-2011, 11:15 AM

One way to go about it is to first summarize the guys main points (without all knob polishin " he makes an excellent point" bs. Then critique point by point. Do not critique anecdotes and other fluff in the article. As a reader, I want to start off the knowing what the he'll you are critiquing. This is not an opportunity for you to list off unsupported opinions. You should focus on critique of his opinions. Each critique you make should be logical and be able to stand up to review. Remove conversational tone.

pauldun170 · 02-05-2011, 11:16 AM

Typing on itouch so pardon my grammar

azoomm · 02-05-2011, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by pauldun170

Typing on itouch so pardon my grammar

That might be the best advice. Derf, just put that line on the top of your paper.

udman · 02-05-2011, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by azoomm

That might be the best advice. Derf, just put that line on the top of your paper.

Lol.

Somehow it feels like paul just got owned but without homeslice here to back it up...i'm just not sure.

pauldun170 · 02-05-2011, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by derf

The actual assignment was to argue agains on of the two papers, referencing both and a 3rd source I havnt done the actual citations yet. What was pasted in the OP was 2 hours worth of work, and a run through with spell checker. Both papers are on the school website. Problem is that the guy makes some decent points, and I don't dissagree with him

Whether you agree or disagree with his main points doesn't matter.
Does he properly support the points he makes?

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Lol.

Somehow it feels like paul just got owned but without homeslice here to back it up...i'm just not sure.

wont be the first time and it wont be the last

udman · 02-05-2011, 12:23 PM

paul you need to stop.

As written the paper is perfectly mediocre and that is what you want to be as a student. If he writes the paper the way you are suggesting, the next thing you know he'll be invited over to the professors house for a "fondue" party. Fred will show up to find out that he was the only guest invited and, oh yea the professor doesn't have any pants on.

Do you want to be responsible for that?

pauldun170 · 02-05-2011, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by udman

paul you need to stop.

As written the paper is perfectly mediocre and that is what you want to be as a student. If he writes the paper the way you are suggesting, the next thing you know he'll be invited over to the professors house for a "fondue" party. Fred will show up to find out that he was the only guest invited and, oh yea the professor doesn't have any pants on.

Do you want to be responsible for that?

Not sure what you are getting at but I am now I'm on the toilet and both legs have fallen asleep.

I guess it would be a bit much to ask for some dirty talk

Homeslice · 02-05-2011, 12:29 PM

Derf, you say the author "misses the point" about education. How are you the authority on education? To my knowledge there's no universally accepted definition of the "point" of education. You're free to give your opinion about it, but you should clearly label it as opinion.

pauldun170 · 02-05-2011, 12:31 PM

Fuck you derf. Do your own homework.
I'd it weren't for you I would not have piñs and needles and half a duece right now

Amber Lamps · 02-05-2011, 12:46 PM

I'm in agreement with Paul for the most part. I don't know what format the assignment calls for and I'm definitely not sure why you're writing a paper against an author that you agree with. I'd imagine that you don't agree with everything that he says so I would write the paper as follows;

1. Introduction, a brief description of what the paper is about.

2. A short overview of who the author is and what his views are.

3. A rebuttal of the points that you do not agree with and the reasons why in detail.

4. Conclusion, a brief final statement that may include some of the anecdotal content from your original draft. Your general views on the author's work, etc.

Then you can collect your reward as the greatest Jewish writer since Anne Frank.

02-05-2011, 12:23 PM	#16
udman You are not the Man!! Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Austin TX Moto: Hawk GT Posts: 750	paul you need to stop. As written the paper is perfectly mediocre and that is what you want to be as a student. If he writes the paper the way you are suggesting, the next thing you know he'll be invited over to the professors house for a "fondue" party. Fred will show up to find out that he was the only guest invited and, oh yea the professor doesn't have any pants on. Do you want to be responsible for that? __________________ You can put lipstick on a VS Forum, but it's still a VS Forum...

02-05-2011, 12:29 PM	#18
Homeslice Elitist Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: SF Bay Area Moto: Gix 750 Posts: 11,351	Derf, you say the author "misses the point" about education. How are you the authority on education? To my knowledge there's no universally accepted definition of the "point" of education. You're free to give your opinion about it, but you should clearly label it as opinion. Last edited by Homeslice; 02-05-2011 at 12:58 PM..

02-05-2011, 12:46 PM	#20
Amber Lamps Moto GP Star Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 14,556	I'm in agreement with Paul for the most part. I don't know what format the assignment calls for and I'm definitely not sure why you're writing a paper against an author that you agree with. I'd imagine that you don't agree with everything that he says so I would write the paper as follows; 1. Introduction, a brief description of what the paper is about. 2. A short overview of who the author is and what his views are. 3. A rebuttal of the points that you do not agree with and the reasons why in detail. 4. Conclusion, a brief final statement that may include some of the anecdotal content from your original draft. Your general views on the author's work, etc. Then you can collect your reward as the greatest Jewish writer since Anne Frank.